Trailer Talk / Wine Events Co / BAFTA TV Awards

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Hello and welcome to the Geeky Boy Podcast. Joining me today, Ms. Keith Linfield. Hello. Mr. Lee Price. [00:00:05] Speaker B: Hello. [00:00:05] Speaker A: And Mr. Sam Edwards. Hello. How are you? All good? [00:00:09] Speaker C: All good for our 250th plus one episode. [00:00:12] Speaker A: 251st episode or year 10 issue four. I know, year 10. Every time I say that just. But today we'll be talking about what's happened at the BAFTAs, which recently aired at the time of recording. And we'll be doing our usual trailer talk where we pick out some of the movies coming out over the next few months and rating them purely based on their trailer. And is it worth a watch or not? Plus our regular one geek thing. But we'll be back after this. So recently on TV and in person at the Royal Restore Hall. Not us, but it was in person as well. Was the BAFTA Film and tele. Sorry, no, just the BAFTA television. This confused me now because they used to have the Film and Television awards, now they have the television awards, the film awards and the gaming awards, but it's still called the baftas, which is British Academy of Film and Television. They haven't changed it to the bafta. So they do a gaming one, but they do games. [00:01:35] Speaker B: Games. One's been around for like 20 years. [00:01:36] Speaker A: I know, but they think they put baftka rather than just bafta. But yes. So it was a British Academy Television Awards at Royal Festival Holland and hosted by Gregory Davis. That was. Yeah. So lots of nominations for a few. Few favorites. One of those being Adolescence. Amanda Land got quite a few nominations, but yeah, so we thought we'd pick of the ones that we've might have actually watched, maybe. I don't know, is TV still relevant nowadays? But we'll pick through a few of them and if they're worth, say. [00:02:10] Speaker B: I have not seen anything. [00:02:11] Speaker A: Okay, so let's start off with Best Drama Series. [00:02:14] Speaker B: I don't know who won or was nominated, but I can safely say I have not seen any of it. [00:02:18] Speaker C: You have a TV for one purpose and one purpose is to play games. [00:02:22] Speaker A: Yes. So let's start with the bigger categories. Best drama series. [00:02:27] Speaker C: Best. [00:02:27] Speaker A: So did anybody watch Code of Silence? Did anybody watch A Thousand Blows, which was Stephen Knight. So local Brummy Stephen Knight and Steven Graham, I believe. Yeah, yeah. Victorians punching each other. I believe. [00:02:45] Speaker C: I'm pretty. I'm pretty sure that we've not watched [00:02:47] Speaker A: any of these blue lights. We've already lost Lou. [00:02:53] Speaker C: We're so on tv. [00:02:55] Speaker A: The city is ours. [00:02:56] Speaker B: I'm pulling up a potential backup because we haven't talked about The Game awards. [00:02:59] Speaker D: Yes. [00:03:00] Speaker A: So Code of Silence. Thousand blades, blue lights, the city is ours. The winner was Code of Silence. Well done, well done, well done. [00:03:06] Speaker D: Code of Silence. [00:03:07] Speaker C: Congratulations. [00:03:08] Speaker A: Best scripted comedy. I don't know why they have to make a distinction between scripted and unscripted comedy. Amandaland. [00:03:16] Speaker C: Haven't watched it. [00:03:17] Speaker A: Me heard good things. [00:03:18] Speaker D: I saw the Christmas special and I actually thought it was excellent. [00:03:21] Speaker A: Watch something Big boys on Channel 4, which I watched the first season of. I haven't seen the second season, but the first season is fantastic and I would really recommend watching. [00:03:30] Speaker C: Who's in that? [00:03:32] Speaker A: The wee English fella from Derry Girls is the main character. That was so helpful. But yeah, it's really worth the watch. It's quite a coming of age, going to university experience, so. But yes, quite touching story. How are you? It's Alan Partridge. Okay. [00:03:51] Speaker C: I did watch that, but I was very not overwhelmed by it. [00:03:56] Speaker A: And then things you should have done on BBC3. Is BBC3 still a thing or didn't they make that all, like, online? [00:04:01] Speaker C: No, it's been back as a TV channel for quite a while and it's [00:04:03] Speaker A: been back for a while. [00:04:04] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:04:05] Speaker A: Limited drama. Adolescence. [00:04:09] Speaker D: Did see that. [00:04:10] Speaker A: Sam's watched this one. Sam can tell us about adolescence. [00:04:12] Speaker C: I like the idea of a limited drama. Was that was it like all the actors were like, you know, we had a couple of hours time. [00:04:20] Speaker A: It's a very small range of emotions. It's British. [00:04:25] Speaker D: It's sad. [00:04:26] Speaker A: You're not allowed to cry or be angry. It's a limited draw. [00:04:29] Speaker D: They've all got a circle drawn around them and they're not allowed to move out of the circle. [00:04:33] Speaker C: Can't use one arm, stand on one leg. [00:04:38] Speaker D: Adolescence has been winning awards in everything it's been nominated in for so long that I was surprised it had won only because it feels like it came out too long ago to still be eligible for winning all the awards. [00:04:51] Speaker C: I was surprised when this happened because I was thinking, didn't it win all the awards in the baftas last year? [00:04:55] Speaker D: Yeah, exactly. [00:04:57] Speaker C: Why is it still here? [00:04:58] Speaker A: I think it won a lot of the US Awards because it was Netflix, so one of those Netflix productions. So it got global acclaim and I think it just missed out the baftas last year based on the release date. So basically this is the whole annual cycle. Takes 12 months to get some stuff out. So. [00:05:15] Speaker D: So it's basically what we're going to get with. I swear. Yes. [00:05:18] Speaker A: At the Oscars next year. Yeah. [00:05:20] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:05:20] Speaker C: I didn't watch it. [00:05:22] Speaker A: I've heard really good things Viv's watched it, who's produced a bit behind the camera, and she really, really loved it and she keeps trying to get me [00:05:28] Speaker D: to watch it, but it's an incredible show. It's thoroughly thr. Thoroughly depressing and very kind of close to home. And it's, like, quite realistic. You can imagine it happening very easily with any, like, perfectly nice kid that you might know. It's. Yeah, it's a difficult watch, but Stephen Graham is, well, always excellent in everything, but he's particularly. [00:05:56] Speaker A: Does he play a particularly angry Scouser by any chance? [00:05:59] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:06:00] Speaker A: Not to say this ties cast for the particularly angry skelter seems to be the default Stephen Graham role. [00:06:05] Speaker D: But he's very, like. There are moments where he's very angry, but there's also moments where he's very sad, and that's particularly hard. [00:06:14] Speaker B: Is he still, like, frowning while sad? [00:06:17] Speaker D: A bit. [00:06:20] Speaker A: And then the other limited series, I haven't watched any of these either. I Fought the Law Trespasses or what it feels like for a girl. Nope. [00:06:30] Speaker C: The default Women. [00:06:31] Speaker A: We are so, like, we've got to know these three best soap. Okay, so EastEnders. [00:06:40] Speaker D: I am aware of EastEnders. [00:06:41] Speaker C: We're aware of its presence. [00:06:43] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:06:43] Speaker A: Casualty and Coronation Street. [00:06:47] Speaker B: I've heard of all three of these. Yes. [00:06:48] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:06:49] Speaker C: You see, Casualty has been around for, like, 600 years now. [00:06:52] Speaker A: Whatever. [00:06:55] Speaker C: When did casualcy become a soap? I don't understand that because it used to go out, like, on a Saturday. Saturday night as kind of like a BBC1 drama. So it was kind of like. It was like. It was like, oh, we've seen the Americans do, er, let's do it in Britain. But, like. [00:07:07] Speaker A: But it used to be about whatever amazing disaster had happened that week. [00:07:11] Speaker C: Yeah. For some reason a plane had crashed [00:07:13] Speaker A: into a school or something, or a train crash or just something like that. [00:07:16] Speaker C: When did it become a soap? I don't understand because I thought it was a drama. Now it's. Is it on, like, five nights a week like every other soap? [00:07:21] Speaker A: I think it's more the fact that they're concentrating now on the characters rather than the actual. [00:07:26] Speaker C: It's gonna be Grey's Anatomy. [00:07:27] Speaker A: It's gone very Grey's Anatomy. But, yeah, it's quite surprised not to see, like, what are the other ones? [00:07:33] Speaker B: Emmerdale. [00:07:34] Speaker A: Emmerdale, Hollyoaks, etc. There's a very limited category of three of them. Yeah. [00:07:39] Speaker C: Hollyoaks. [00:07:41] Speaker A: Hollyoaks is gonna go forever. Yeah. They just did a Brookside revival crossover episode. [00:07:46] Speaker B: No. [00:07:46] Speaker C: Yes. [00:07:47] Speaker B: Wow. [00:07:47] Speaker C: I liked Brookside. [00:07:48] Speaker D: Yes. [00:07:49] Speaker C: That Was cool. I like Brookside. [00:07:50] Speaker A: Some of the characters from Hollyoaks visited Brookside. [00:07:53] Speaker B: Wow. [00:07:55] Speaker C: And I missed that. [00:07:56] Speaker A: Yeah, you missed that. [00:07:57] Speaker B: Real cultural exchange going on. [00:07:59] Speaker C: 400 man. I'm looking at that. [00:08:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:01] Speaker A: Best factual entertainment. So we had Go back to where you came from, which did watch and it was quite an interesting show. The assembly. [00:08:11] Speaker C: It's the one where a bunch of people ask questions to people. David Tennant was on it and stuff. Yeah. [00:08:16] Speaker A: Knife edge chasing Michelin stars on Apple tv. I don't own Apple tv, so I've [00:08:22] Speaker C: got Apple TV and I've never seen that show. [00:08:23] Speaker A: And Race across the World, which has been on for multiple seasons now, quite like Race across the World. It is quite obviously some staging going on with the production of how it's done. But yeah, go back to where you came from is quite worthy because that was basically taking people who are very anti immigration and like perishing them into this is actually how. How they try and get over and all those kind of things. Yes, it was interesting. [00:08:48] Speaker D: Watch. [00:08:49] Speaker A: Best international program. We'll have watched all of these. [00:08:51] Speaker C: Watch some of these. [00:08:53] Speaker D: Are they just all American? [00:08:55] Speaker A: Pretty much all American. [00:08:56] Speaker C: I think the International that's for. In Britain. That's it for us. [00:09:01] Speaker D: It's America. [00:09:02] Speaker A: So Apple TV have got three of these. Disney has one, Netflix has one and Sky Atlantic has one. But which is really hbo. Really? Yeah. Scott. Atlantic here in the uk. [00:09:14] Speaker B: HBO with extra steps. [00:09:15] Speaker A: Yes. So the nominees were the Studio, the Bear, the Diplomat, Pluribus, Severance. [00:09:21] Speaker B: A show which doesn't start with the. [00:09:23] Speaker A: Yes. And the White Lotus just finished Full back circle. And the winner was the Studio, which is very fun. Seth Rogen kind of led pastiche of the Hollywood drama. [00:09:34] Speaker C: It was the most fun of the shows to watch. [00:09:37] Speaker A: I mean the Bear always gets me because it's stuck in the comedy category in the Golden Globes because they didn't want to go up against bloody funny though. [00:09:46] Speaker C: Well, it might be a funny blackly funny, but it's not. Yeah, a comedy. [00:09:50] Speaker A: Yeah, the Diplomat. I think producer Viv is watching. [00:09:53] Speaker C: Is that the one with Claire Danes in? [00:09:55] Speaker A: No, it's the one with her from the Americans. Can't remember. [00:10:00] Speaker C: I don't know. [00:10:01] Speaker A: Keri Russell. [00:10:02] Speaker C: Oh, okay. Yes, I've seen the picture on Netflix and then skip past it. [00:10:06] Speaker A: Pluribus is the Vince Gilligan follow up which he hates because Keith hates everything. Vince Gilligan. [00:10:11] Speaker C: I don't hate everything. Vince Lind. I liked his X Files stuff. [00:10:14] Speaker A: You don't like Breaking Bad. I did like Better Call Saul and Now you don't like Pluribus. He's been the showrunner all through. [00:10:20] Speaker C: I got to episode three of Pluribus. [00:10:22] Speaker A: You tried severance again. Heard lots of good things. [00:10:26] Speaker C: It's a good show. [00:10:27] Speaker D: Incredible show. [00:10:27] Speaker C: It's a good show. Yeah. [00:10:28] Speaker A: And the White Lotus, I think it was such a big juggernaut to start off with and now it seems to have. [00:10:35] Speaker D: I still love the White Lotus but I know season three didn't go down as well as the first two seasons did for a reason. [00:10:42] Speaker C: I love that phrasing. [00:10:44] Speaker D: Sorry, [00:10:47] Speaker C: it's too sexy for me, that show. And Sam just went there. [00:10:50] Speaker A: Yeah. So best entertainment program. So there was the Graham Morton show. Very, very rough definition of Entertainment. Michael McIntyre's big show. Would I lie to you? And last one laughing, who's the winner? And last one laughing I think deserved to be the winner. I mean throwing 12 very good stand up comedians into a room together. And Bob Mortimer. [00:11:16] Speaker C: It was only going to go one way. [00:11:17] Speaker A: Yes. Best reality tv. So we have. [00:11:22] Speaker C: I'm sure you all watched every single one of these shows. [00:11:24] Speaker A: Squid Game, the Challenge, which kind of defeats the purpose of the actual show. [00:11:30] Speaker C: Here's a warning. The warning is actually do it. [00:11:34] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yep. The Jury murder trial, which I think is one where they put like a jury in and they replay an actual life previous case and then it's a case of are they going to. [00:11:49] Speaker C: I'm not confused with all of these jury ones. Isn't there an American one where they put a real person in a fake jury? [00:11:55] Speaker A: Well, they've just had a follow up to that one where they employ a guy in a fake company and go on a business retreat for two weeks. [00:12:01] Speaker C: What category is this again? [00:12:02] Speaker A: Best reality tv. Yeah, Best reality. Yeah, Reality. [00:12:05] Speaker C: I'm not on board with reality. [00:12:08] Speaker A: The Jewelry Murder, Troll Squid Game, the Challenge, Virgin island, which it's not the Richard Branson one. It would have been a slightly more interesting show. And then the Celebrity Traitors, which the BBC have hit gold with Alan Carr just being the most obvious traitor of all time. And oblivious celebrities going, hmm, I wonder who's murdering us all While Alan Carr's [00:12:33] Speaker B: going, I can't imagine Alan Card doing subtlety. [00:12:41] Speaker A: I just want to give a couple of the others and then we'll go through Best Daytime. Apparently that's a category. So we have the Chase, Lorraine, Richard Osman's House of Games and Scam Interceptors. [00:12:57] Speaker B: Look, I'm okay with the Chase being there just because it results in Bradley Walsh just laughing at really stupid questions. [00:13:04] Speaker A: Which one do you think is the winner out of those? [00:13:08] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:13:09] Speaker C: I can see it. [00:13:10] Speaker D: I'm like shocked. [00:13:12] Speaker A: Apparently it's scam Interceptors. [00:13:14] Speaker D: Okay. [00:13:14] Speaker A: Whatever that is. [00:13:15] Speaker C: I'm hoping that's the one that comes on after the news at 9:30 and it's Gloria Honeyford, Angela Rippon and a couple of other like people going this somebody's got scammed. [00:13:26] Speaker A: We're going to track down. You just got Angela Rippon like sliding over a car bonnet. [00:13:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:31] Speaker C: It might not be that show. I'm sure there's another one that comes on after the news on BBC every day. [00:13:34] Speaker A: Apparently it's about Internet fraud. Just one show starring Jim Browning and presented by Ralph Wilding, Nick Stapleton. [00:13:43] Speaker C: Well, I got confused. I do recommend the one with Angela Rippon and Gloria Honeyford. [00:13:47] Speaker A: Yes. Best children scripted. So we've got Horrible Science, which I believe is a Horrible Histories kind of follow up. [00:13:54] Speaker B: I read some of those books when I was a kid. [00:13:55] Speaker A: Yeah. Shaun the Sheep, the Wonderful Weird of Gumball. Which didn't win because what won was Crongton. [00:14:04] Speaker B: What? [00:14:06] Speaker A: Which is only available on iplayer record. [00:14:09] Speaker D: Wow. [00:14:10] Speaker C: I'm just, I'm. Yeah. The fact that Gumball didn't win. Coming back after so many years, much like the regular show has now come back with lost tapes. [00:14:19] Speaker A: Yes. BAFTA fellowship was Mary Berry for many decades of producing Cake. [00:14:25] Speaker C: Melon Sutter presents that award, which is cute. [00:14:28] Speaker A: Special award was Martin Lewis for his money saving expertise. [00:14:31] Speaker C: I love a mine. [00:14:33] Speaker D: Yes. [00:14:34] Speaker B: Don't argue with that. [00:14:35] Speaker A: Do you want to quickly go through the best actors and actresses? We know who they all are, so best actor was Stephen Graham as angry Scouser in adolescence. [00:14:44] Speaker D: Rightly so, yes. [00:14:46] Speaker A: Matt Smith, Bunny Monroe, James Nelson Joyce, the City Is Ours, Ellis Howard, what it Feels like for a Girl, Colin Firth, Lockerbie, A Search for the Truth and Taryn Egerton, Smoke were the runners up in that one. Best actress, Najeez Rashidi as Nazanin Zaghari Ratcliffe, Prisoner 951. Nominees were Sian Brooke as Constable Grace Ellis in Blue Lights, Erin Doherty from A Thousand Bro Blows, Sheridan Smith, I Fought the Law, Jodie Whittaker, Toxic, Amy Lee Wood in Film Club. Not Fight Club. Film Club. [00:15:23] Speaker C: What on earth are we watching? We don't watch any of these shows. [00:15:27] Speaker B: So. [00:15:27] Speaker A: Best supporting actor was Erin Cooper again for Adolescence. As should be expected, runner up were Ferhenti Balogun in Down Cemetery Road, Paddy Considine in Mobland, Raphael Matthe in the Death of Bunny Monroe, Josh McGuire in the gold. Ashley Walters in Adolescence as well. Best supporting actress was Christine Trimarco from Adolescence. Runners that were Rose Ayling Ellis from Reunion, Erin Doherty from Adolescence, Amelia Jones From Task, China McQueen from Get Millie Back, Amy Lee Wood from the White Lotus. And then we've got comedy performances. So Stephen Coogan one for Alan Partridge. It's just I'm Alan Partridge now. He is just him personally, I think he just goes home, like, just phases into being. Follow ups were Jim Runner ups with Jim Howick and here we go. John Pointing from Big Boys Moan. Rizwan from Juice. Lenny Rush in I Am I Being Unreasonable. Oliver Saville as young Alan Carr in Changing Ends, which is kind of a semi documentary series. Best female comedy, Catherine Parkinson. You'll probably know best from it. Crowd or what was that Mr. Selfridge show? She was in that as well. [00:16:47] Speaker C: It wasn't it called Myself. [00:16:48] Speaker A: Probably called Myself, but she was. Here we go. Philippa Dunn, runner of Amandoland, Rosie Jones for Pushers, Diane Morgan for Mandy, Lucy Punch for Amandaland and Jennifer Saunders for Amandaland. So quite a few nominations that one. And last two we were going to cover off for today. Bob Mortimer, best entertainment performance. Last one laughing. No big surprise there. Follow ups were Rob Beckett and Romish Ranganathan for Robin Romish. Alan Carr and Amanda Holden for Amanda and Alan's Spanish job, which basically just seems to be an excuse for them to just go to Spain and drink wine on holiday and why not? Yeah. Lee Mack for 1% club. Romish Ranganathan again for Romish. Can't knock The Hustle on SkyMax. And Claudia Winkelmann for Celebrity Traitors. And there we go. [00:17:32] Speaker C: Why? [00:17:33] Speaker A: So I'm surprised we don't watch tv. [00:17:38] Speaker C: But that seems so weird because I watch TV all the time. Literally. I get home at night and I'll watch a load of tv. I think it's because I don't watch a lot of British shows. I do watch British shows. [00:17:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:49] Speaker C: Because unless next year bafta. Listen to me now. Mackenzie Cook is in half a dozen of these categories. We'll be having words, but pretty much [00:17:58] Speaker A: most of my TV is probably the news and taskmaster. [00:18:02] Speaker C: Yeah, there are a few good shows. [00:18:05] Speaker D: Yeah. I mean, to be fair, the baftas obviously have to have different categories for the different genres and stuff. And like, we don't watch particularly soaps or reality TV or daytime tv, so there's inevitably going to be a whole load of stuff that we don't know. [00:18:19] Speaker C: But yeah, I mean, it's cool. Cool that it gets recognized. [00:18:22] Speaker D: Oh, yeah, yeah. [00:18:23] Speaker C: So, you know, there's a lot of work goes into these shows, regardless of whether we watch them or not. You know, it's a lot. It takes a lot to make a TV show. [00:18:30] Speaker D: That's what I always think about soaps. I'm not particularly into them, but you have to respect the fact that they are writing scripts. [00:18:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:18:37] Speaker D: I mean the fact that they practically daily basis. [00:18:39] Speaker B: One of the big things as well with soaps is it's actually a really good way of writers getting into the industry. [00:18:44] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:18:44] Speaker B: Because a lot of. A lot of writers do start by going into soaps and then same for [00:18:48] Speaker C: behind the scenes, you know, technical staff from stuff getting. [00:18:50] Speaker B: Because they need so many people because there's so many episodes. [00:18:54] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:18:54] Speaker A: I think that's why it was such a big shock for, I think for the Birmingham TV industry when Doctors got cancelled, because so many people and so many actors started off in there. I mean, you got people like, what's his face guy from the Harry Potter spin off. He started off. And Doctors in a couple of episodes and you got loads of actresses. Lady played Jenner. So I think pretty much Doctors and casualties. [00:19:19] Speaker B: It's also very funny to me that popular video game actor Ben Starr was also in an episode of Doctors as well. [00:19:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:25] Speaker B: Which is very, very funny because final. He goes from Doctors to Final Fantasy 16. [00:19:29] Speaker C: I am friends with a guy who's been in Doctors several times, several characters, mostly bad characters. But I'm also glad as well that it's like it's not dominated by streaming stuff. There was a lot of kind of like, you know, free to air, ITV, Channel 4, BBC stuff. [00:19:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:45] Speaker C: So that's. It's good. [00:19:46] Speaker A: I mean, it was nice to see Steven Knight got a nomination for A Thousand Blows, which again, I think separate from Peaky Blinders, which just kind of dominate Birmingham TV industry. But with his new studio and things like that, it would be nice to see a resurgence in more locally made TV and film in Birmingham. [00:20:02] Speaker C: Pebble Mill at one, folks. Yeah, that's what we need back. But anyway, congratulations to all the winners and all the nominees. Yes, your work is much appreciated. So, yeah, we salute you all. [00:20:16] Speaker B: Yep. [00:20:21] Speaker A: As you're probably aware, it's a regular feature on Geeky for me that we'll pick some trailers of upcoming summer autumn films and judge them based purely on the trailer and what's coming up. So the first one we're going to look, which was one of your picks, Keith, which is Wildwood, which is the sixth feature film from Lycra. Studios directed by Travis Knight, who you might know from Bumblebee and Kubo with the Two Strings, written by Chris Butler, based on the Colin Malloy and Carson Ellis novel from 2011. Big voice cast on this one. Peyton Elizabeth Leigh, Jacob Trembley, Carey Mulligan, Richard E. Grant Awkwafina Amanda Steinberg Tom Waits, Charlie Day, Blythe Danner, Arthur Knight Mayer Erskine, Jake Johnson, Tantu Cardinal, Rob Delaney, Jermaine Clement, Mark Evan Johnson, Len Cariou Oliver Daria Olufsen, Angela Bassett and Marcia Charlotte Ali. [00:21:13] Speaker B: So what I love about Leica is that they are probably one of the few arguments in favor of Nepo Babies. Because the only reason that studio exists is because the CEO of Nike just keeps giving his son money. And I'm okay with that. [00:21:28] Speaker C: It's money well spent as far as [00:21:29] Speaker B: I'm concerned, because that's what I want rich people to spend money on, is actual art. So there you go. [00:21:34] Speaker A: And Dario Marionelli is doing the score. So he's previously done the Box Trolls and Kubo and the Two Strings. And it's his third collaboration with Knight because he did Kubo and Bumblebee with him as well. So what do we think? [00:21:50] Speaker D: I can't wait for this. It looks so beautiful. And the trailer came out this week, but prior to that we've had a few making of featurettes and I do really like that they released those before the trailer because it really kind of brings home the amount of ridiculous amount of work that goes into making these films and like stuff like Wallace and Gromit. Enough work goes into that. And that's just a couple of characters normally on screen at a time. This has. There's a bit where there's a whole army charging down a hill, which you can imagine the animators looking at the storyboard and just thinking, oh, God, 231 [00:22:33] Speaker A: practical puppets across 136 sets. Which is an insane amount of work, as you said. [00:22:39] Speaker C: Yes. [00:22:40] Speaker B: And from what I understand, like, there's been a lot of sort of collaborators on it, doing individual bits of it because they. I follow the game developer Mike Bithell on Bluesky and he said that apparently his wife made the hands and that's basically all she did. So it's like, okay, yeah. [00:22:59] Speaker A: But they've used a lot of 3D printing on this to get through the volume of stuff, which shows the development [00:23:05] Speaker C: of technology process they've been using for quite a few years. Kind of started with them in Paranorman. They started doing what was rapid prototyping so they could Just change the faces quite quickly so they'd have a whole table. So I think Wildwood was announced probably six years ago, went into production five. And again it's like just going, okay, we did the massive skeleton fight in Kubo. We've done all of these things and they've gone, yeah, let's do birds and feathers. And we'll animate those and we'll animate every single feather, like individually. But again, like, like Sam was saying, what's beautiful about Leica is they foreground the artists. And what I do like is that often in the post credit scenes of like a movie, you'll see the artists doing it. And in Box Trolls, if you haven't seen Box Trolls, wait for the end credit sequence on Box Trolls because there's a beautiful moment where you just kind [00:23:56] Speaker D: of [00:23:58] Speaker C: transcends what it is. [00:23:59] Speaker A: A lot of fourth wall breaking. [00:24:01] Speaker C: But it looks, it looks stunningly gorgeous. It just looks incredible. [00:24:04] Speaker B: And I'm always a big fan of stop motion stuff in general. I just like how it looks and moves and. And obviously as saying the amount of work that goes into it, that's just phenomenal. [00:24:16] Speaker A: What do we think from a kind of what plot we saw in the trailer? It feels very Labyrinth. [00:24:20] Speaker B: I was thinking Labyrinth. A less sexy labyrinth. [00:24:25] Speaker A: No Bowie, unfortunately. Yeah. [00:24:28] Speaker C: But there's always a nice kind of sense of melancholy sometimes in a. Like a film. I mean, the first thing they do is. Was Coraline. [00:24:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:39] Speaker C: Which. [00:24:39] Speaker A: Which was surprising that that's the one they call out in the trailer from the creators of Coraline. It's like they've done so much amazing work since then. [00:24:46] Speaker B: But it's the big hit though, isn't it? [00:24:48] Speaker D: Yeah, it's. It's a similar sort of based on a fantasy. [00:24:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:53] Speaker C: It's because it's based on a book again, as this one. Whereas, I mean, Paranorman was, you know, a fantastically brilliant film and everybody should watch it. Box Shoals was phenomenal as well. Kubo and the Two Strings, the greatest soundtracks. That was amazing. And I still like Missing Link. I think it was a stumble for the studio that it didn't really connect with the audiences as much. But there was a lot going on in that film that I liked in terms of the animation and the stylistic. They kind of went with a more stylized look, whereas this one, they're kind of pulling it back a little bit into a kind of more realistic. [00:25:27] Speaker A: I was going to say it's based around Portland, Oregon, which is where the studio is based. So I imagine that was really Handy for reference, but it's that kind of Pacific Northwest, which we haven't really had from them before. I don't think it's kind of more realistic, as you said. [00:25:41] Speaker B: I'm a big fan of the Pacific Northwest, especially when it gets weird. [00:25:45] Speaker C: Yeah. I'm just sad that it's like October feels like a long time away, but I'm fully on board for this one. [00:25:51] Speaker A: Yeah. And again, Travis Knight done some good stuff. Kubo and Two Strings. Bumblebee is probably one of the highlights of the transformation. [00:25:58] Speaker C: He's also got he man coming out as well. Masters of Universe. So he's, he's got, he's got that. And he has done the best Transformers movie. [00:26:05] Speaker D: Yes. [00:26:06] Speaker C: So. [00:26:07] Speaker A: So this is where I'm glad that Keith and Sam, on separate tables. Moving on. [00:26:12] Speaker B: Oh, no, I'm in the middle. [00:26:14] Speaker C: It's not that bad. It's not that bad. [00:26:17] Speaker A: So it's going to be Christopher Nolan's 13th film that he's directed, which is the Odyssey, epic fantasy action film adaptation of Homer's, of course, ancient Greek epic the Odyssey, with Matt Damon as Odysseus, the king of Ithaca. Massive cast. Anne Hathaway is playing Penelope. Tom Holland's playing their son. Robert Pattison, Lupita Nyong' o Zendaya, Charlize Theron. Big, big old cast. And it's Nolan, his wife, producing through their production company, Syncope. And he's also written this one as well. No Jonathan Nolan this time, so it's just Christopher writing it [00:26:56] Speaker B: with his brother. [00:26:57] Speaker A: Yeah, well, he's not doing Westworld anymore, [00:27:01] Speaker B: so you'd think he'd be free. [00:27:02] Speaker C: But it kind of fits into the whole Greek tragedy kind of thing of brothers falling out. So. [00:27:06] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [00:27:07] Speaker B: Well, usually in Greek tragedies, one brother ends up killing the other. [00:27:10] Speaker C: Well, has anybody seen Jonathan since? So let's not go down that rabbit [00:27:14] Speaker A: hole for a sunny Mediterranean location. They've gone to quite a few places. I think they've done a lot of practical firmly in Iceland and Malta and places like that. But it's kind of very dark tone and it feels very wintery. [00:27:28] Speaker C: But historically speaking, we don't know that it was all sunny back then. It could have been like, you know, [00:27:35] Speaker D: it's a 10 year journey. There's going to be different moments. [00:27:38] Speaker C: They picked all the stormy days to put in the trailer. [00:27:41] Speaker D: That was what it is. [00:27:41] Speaker A: I just imagine it's like this boat must be as slow as a canal boat. It takes. Takes 10 years to get around. [00:27:48] Speaker D: The idea is he gets. So Yeah, I don't. I don't have a problem with the different locations because. Yeah, yeah, it's a fantasy, but yeah, I'm again, very much looking forward to this. I've always loved Greek mythology. I think Christopher Nolan is very good at kind of big event blockbusters, which is what the Odyssey should be. And one problem that I often have with adaptations of Greek myths is they'll try and rationalize it and say, oh, it was a guy with really good armor and shaped like a lion. And over time, this grew into a myth about a lion whose hide couldn't be penetrated by any weapon. Like, no, give me a proper lion. And it looks like he is properly going for actually telling the Greek myth and taking fantasy elements. [00:28:50] Speaker A: We get a cyclops in the trailer for a brief second with his vertical eye, which looks slightly disturbing, to be fair. And then the giant suits of armor fighting at Theseus and his crew. [00:29:00] Speaker D: Yeah, and Charybdis, the big whirlpool and. Yeah, so I'm absolutely all for all of that. I like as well. They seem to have, like. Although they are doing all of that, which is great, they are also giving a good amount of screen time to Penelope and Telemachus back at Ithaca and the plot going on there. So they're not sort of sidelining that because that is the more kind of human character driven element of the story and they're not sidelining that in favor of the big kind of visual spectacle. So, yeah, I think it looks great. [00:29:38] Speaker A: This is going to be our second Robert Pattinson. There's a bit of a git film period of time because June comes out similar kind of, well the same year. So that's more October time. But yeah, Robert Pattinson has a bad ears in this one. [00:29:52] Speaker D: Yeah. And he does look like a proper kind of hisable villain. [00:29:57] Speaker A: I mean, Keith, you should be happy because Hans Zimmer isn't doing the soundtrack for this one. So Ludwig Goransson, I believe, is the. [00:30:06] Speaker C: I mean, the last thing Nolan did was go in as well. Yeah, which is fine. I mean, it looks. Looks okay. I mean, I'm of an age where my connection to this story was being wheeled in on a radio when in primary school. And I was about to say, I [00:30:21] Speaker A: was there at the time. Yeah, I was also there. [00:30:23] Speaker D: We were sat around a campfire. [00:30:24] Speaker C: And the audio version. And then the kind of Harryhausen. [00:30:27] Speaker A: All right, Elros, I was there 3,000 years ago. [00:30:30] Speaker C: The gray means something, folks. And then the kind of Harryhausen kind of stuff, which did not shy away from the Idea of like, you know, giant statues that came alive. [00:30:40] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:30:41] Speaker C: Not necessarily the Odyssey as such, but [00:30:44] Speaker A: they purposely kept out of the trailer. I think. [00:30:47] Speaker D: I think he glimpsed the top of his head over some trees. [00:30:50] Speaker C: Yeah. I think if they lean into the story and don't think, oh, we've got to ground this in a way that modern audiences can relate to and all that other stuff, it's like it's a fantasy story. Tell the fantasy story. Whether Nolan can get over his problems with writing female characters again is another thing. [00:31:11] Speaker A: Anne Hathaway as Penelope. Penelope is a very strong character in the original epic. I mean, she's got all these suitors in her palace which she can't get rid of because the obligation of being a host, but trying to find ways of doing the old tapestry and then picking it every night as the Greek myth. [00:31:25] Speaker C: So, yeah, I mean, there's moments in the trailer that you just go, that could be cool. That could be cool. I mean, I recently bought Excalibur, John Boorman's kind of thing. And if it kind of leans into that kind of slightly, like, let's just be a bit odd and a bit weird and stuff and it's like, you know, it could be interesting. [00:31:45] Speaker A: I mean, we know Matt Damon's good in the suit of armour. He was alright in the last duel. And again, this joins that pantheon of Matt Damon is lost category of films, which we seem to be having quite a lot of. [00:31:56] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, I'm cool on Nolan as a director and stuff, but this is. This is a story that I've got a lot of history with. And so I know, yeah, again, it's going to be one of those ones where I'm going to be taking a lot of baggage in with me. And, you know, I was going to [00:32:11] Speaker A: say it's one of those myths that's been reinterpreted so many times. So it'll be interesting to see what his. [00:32:16] Speaker C: It'll be a spectacle regardless of anything else. [00:32:18] Speaker B: Although I am disappointed there's not enough New Donk City in it. [00:32:23] Speaker A: I did like the trailer finishes, which shot entirely on IMAX cameras. [00:32:28] Speaker B: Okay, good. Well done. [00:32:29] Speaker A: Yeah, it's an IMAX film. [00:32:32] Speaker B: I'm still not going to watch it in imax. I'm not going to watch it at all. But to be fair, but I do [00:32:37] Speaker C: like Matt Damon's battle cry of let's go. [00:32:40] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah. I've seen a lot of people on the Internet getting upset about him doing an American accent and all the rest of it, but I'd probably prefer that to Damon trying to do a Greek accent [00:32:53] Speaker C: with subtitles. [00:32:54] Speaker A: Do you want him to call your boss, like server Kibb? [00:32:57] Speaker D: They should all be smashing plates all of the time. [00:33:03] Speaker B: Any other Greek stereotypes? [00:33:07] Speaker C: Although what would be good is I have heard the rumour that Harry Enfield will make a small cameo appearance in the film at some point. [00:33:13] Speaker A: Hello, Pips. Right, moving on to our final trailer very quickly. Moving on to our final trailer of this segment. Stewart fails to save the universe. So this is a Big Bang Theory spin off, the fourth television series in the Big Bang franchise. When did this become a franchise, by the way? [00:33:35] Speaker B: So you had Young Sheldon when Bazinga became merchandiseable. That's what became. [00:33:40] Speaker A: So you had the Big Bang Theory, which then spun off into Young Sheldon, which then spun off into George and Mandy's first marriage, which was a spin off of the young Sheldon. But this is the first director spin off of the Big Bang Theory, if that makes sense. Created by Chuck Lowry, Zach Penn and Bill Prady. Kevin Sissman as Stuart Bloom. Brian Posen as Bert Kibler. Lauren Lapkus as Denise. John Rose. John Ross. Bowie is back as Kripke. Listed as both Barry Kripke and Supreme Ruler Barry Kripke. Ryan Cartwright as Carl. Josh Brenner as Trevor. Tommy Walker as Gary. [00:34:15] Speaker B: Gary. [00:34:17] Speaker C: I'm gonna go first on this because I saw. I heard about this show. It's been kind of percolating around for quite a few years now. [00:34:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:24] Speaker C: And I was a bit like. Because Stuart in the original show was just such a shockingly bad stereotype. She was just like, this is just shocking and insulting to everybody. But then I've seen this trailer. I've seen the comic cover they did, which was quite cool. I kind of like that. And then I saw this trailer and went, yeah, okay, I'm gonna watch this. This looks fine. It's like stupid. Kind of like. [00:34:48] Speaker A: Well, it's a multiverse story with like a post apocalyptic alternate version of Pasadena in California. [00:34:55] Speaker C: And I did like the bit. There's a clip where he's like, he's carrying a box around, which looks like a kind of bit from Blake 7 where they carry Orac around. I kind of like, yeah, if this is kind of silly and stupid and just like, let's be ridiculous, it's kind of like I could be on board and it's only like, it's only ridiculous. It's something. It's only nine episodes. Seems to be the thing now with shows. It's like, we'll do nine and it's like, that's it. [00:35:18] Speaker A: It's just a frankly bizarre concept of what were they smoking in the room when they come up with. Yes, we want to do another Big Bang Theory series, but let's say in a multiversal apocalypse. And Stuart, the comic book character who everybody really didn't like that much in the Big Bang Theory because he was such a sapper and such a miserable get. We're going to make him the lead. [00:35:39] Speaker C: But he's got an in universe explanation that Stuart interferes with an experiment that Sheldon and the other geese who appear [00:35:46] Speaker A: in Kenny, who appear in cartoon form only. [00:35:49] Speaker C: Yeah. He messes up with an experiment which causes a fracture in the universe. [00:35:52] Speaker A: I assume there will be some kind of cameos at some point. Regardless, it's kind of probably expected. [00:35:58] Speaker C: Alternative versions of Sheldon Cooper. Yeah. Yeah. It could be fun. [00:36:03] Speaker A: It's a world of concept that. It's got me slightly intrigued. [00:36:07] Speaker C: Although I do like the fact that it says Stewart fails to save the universe. So it's like. [00:36:10] Speaker A: Yeah, as we were saying off air a bit before, the first couple of series of Big Bang Theory had some really strong writing and some really good character development before every single character and it got flanderized to death. [00:36:22] Speaker C: So did any of you see a show called Future Man? [00:36:26] Speaker D: No. [00:36:27] Speaker C: It had the geezer that was in Thunder Games. Hunger Games. [00:36:32] Speaker A: Thunder Games sounds pretty cool. [00:36:35] Speaker B: Longer games in the Thunderdome and that [00:36:37] Speaker C: had a similar thing of like a guy. They. People bringing somebody from the past to the future to save the universe and kind of stuff. And that was a fun kind of thing. But that was a little more risque than this one. [00:36:48] Speaker A: It's one of those weird watch. I think. Well, it's, it's. I think it's one of those shows that's going to really depend on how strong the writing is in the first two or three. [00:36:56] Speaker B: And we've seen the Big Bang Theory and. [00:36:57] Speaker C: Well, Zach Penn's involved in the writing on this one. So it could be. It could be something. Yeah, I think I'm in for at least the first episode and we'll see [00:37:09] Speaker A: back with some more trailers shortly. [00:37:15] Speaker E: Hi, my name's Tony from the Wine Events Company and we specialise in comparing wine with classic movies. Today it's 1980 Flash Gordon with wine and we're on Planet Mongo and we've liberated wines from Ming Cellar. I'm going to be Flash Gordon to start off with, but there's going to be some more dressing up. We do all kinds of movies, but they're all great. They're all great fun and they're classic. Might be Mamma Mia, Pulp Fiction, Dirty Dancing, even the whole Lord of the Rings trilogy. Although not all on the same night. On a typical event, you come in, grab a seat, we'll give you your first drink, you start watching the movie and just as you're getting into it, we turn the lights on, take you out of the movie for a moment. But we make up for it by giving you your next glass of themed wine. We do a bit of movie trivia, we have a bit of fun, a few shenanigans, lots of dressing up, lots of different characters, presenting the wine. And it's a great immersive movie with wine experience. So you can find us at right here in Digburth at Mockingbird Cinema, perhaps in Brindley Place at the Crescent Theatre in Solihull. At the core, the Theatre Chipping norton, the Hubbard St. Mary's in Litchfield, an old converted church. Loads of fantastic venues right here in the Midlands. If you want to find out more about upcoming events, check us out on our socials, Instagram X and Facebook by looking for Hewine Events Co or our website, www.thewine events company.com. you can find out all the information there, there's an explainer video, all the booking links and we'd love to see you soon. [00:39:03] Speaker A: So we're going to start this bit of trailer talk off with a film that died and now has been resurrected, which is kind of properly appropriate to one of the main characters in the film, Coyote vs. Acme. So it originally started development in 2020 18, directed by Dave Green, written by Sammy Birch and James Gooden Andrew, Amy Slater, based on a 1990 New York magazine article, Coyote vs. Acme, which I didn't really believe, I didn't understand. There was an article first, I think [00:39:33] Speaker B: I may have seen it, and I think it is basically just like a satirical article thing that someone put into whatever it was. [00:39:39] Speaker A: Well, basically, Wile E. Coyote sued the Acme Corporation for the amount of rubbish crap that they send in for the postcards. Quite a strong cast. Will Forte, Lana Condor, Tone Bill John Cena Wiley Coyote, Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck. [00:39:54] Speaker B: Yep. [00:39:55] Speaker A: Foghorn Leghorn. [00:39:56] Speaker D: Yes. [00:39:57] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. So it got shelved in November 2023 as part of this whole Warner Brothers Discovery merger, which kind of decimated their animated portfolio. So it got cancelled, I think at the same time as Batgirl got a tax write off and then many negotiations later and Ketchup Entertainment acquired the rights to re release the film along with the Day the Earth Blew up. [00:40:21] Speaker C: Yeah. Which I saw earlier this year, which was cool. [00:40:24] Speaker A: Yeah. So I say it's been in development hell for quite a while. Well, it was ready to go, basically, [00:40:32] Speaker C: but it was all made and done. It was fixed. It should have been released years ago. [00:40:37] Speaker A: Yes. But looks a fun concept. I mean, it's got a very strong. [00:40:42] Speaker B: I am genuinely excited for this one. Like, I. I've always loved the Looney Tunes and you know, the sort of. One of my favorite films of all time is Roger Rabbit. And this has the same. [00:40:53] Speaker A: It's got a really strong Roger Rabbit vibe, more than a Space Jammy vibe. [00:40:57] Speaker B: And also just the concept of it is just great of just, you know, the ACME Corporation getting sued and like just seeing the trailers. And John Cena is clearly having a great time being like the evil CEO. [00:41:11] Speaker A: I think he's the evil lawyer and Foghorn Leghorn's the CEO. [00:41:14] Speaker D: Maybe my big takeaway from the trailer is how scary Foghorn Leghorn can be when they want to make any. He's got that sort of an activity with a golf club. [00:41:23] Speaker C: He's always been that kind of like. Well, I'll say, I say, I'll say, boy. [00:41:27] Speaker D: It's like. [00:41:27] Speaker C: Yep, yep. [00:41:29] Speaker A: But I was gonna say it's one of those things that you always feel slightly sad for Wile E. Coyote, even though his plan is to kill. [00:41:34] Speaker C: Yeah, Unfortunately, Wiley's one of my kind of cartoon heroes because of that whole thing. [00:41:41] Speaker B: His determination. [00:41:42] Speaker C: He never gives up, man. [00:41:45] Speaker A: But yeah, I mean, it's kind of fun to see a film like this back in the cinema. It's been a while since we've had that live action cartoon crossover. We'll ignore Space Jam, the reboot, because everybody ignores Space Jam. Yeah, yeah. [00:41:59] Speaker B: The original Space Jam is like, bad, but in a way that's enjoyable. [00:42:03] Speaker C: Yes, it's silly. Yeah, it's silly. [00:42:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:06] Speaker C: But I mean, but we don't want [00:42:07] Speaker B: to talk about the second one. [00:42:09] Speaker C: I mean, I watched this trailer and went, yep, that's my film of the year. Straight away, glorious. [00:42:14] Speaker A: So moving on swiftly to a film which is definitely not going to be your film of the year because you hate the director. [00:42:20] Speaker C: No, no, no, that's. That's a little harsh. He's only done like two previous films, both of which I thought. I thought when they were okay. And then wildly went, yeah, who cares? And logic went out the window. [00:42:34] Speaker A: So it's Resident Evil, the upcoming horror film from Zach Kreger, creator of Barbarian and Weapons. It was also co written the screenplay with Shay Hatton second reboot with the Resident Evil franchise. There was a film after the Mila Jovic ones, which nobody bothered to watch, apparently. So this is them rebooting. [00:42:52] Speaker B: Are we talking the animated ones or are we talking about. [00:42:54] Speaker C: I think it was a return to Raccoon. It was a live action one. [00:42:57] Speaker B: The only other ones I knew outside of like the. [00:43:00] Speaker A: Yeah, it starred Robbie Amell, who you might have seen in all like the Arrowverse stuff. He's. Yeah, it's. [00:43:08] Speaker C: It's not that bad. It's not that bad. [00:43:10] Speaker B: I just never heard of it. I know of like, things like death. [00:43:13] Speaker C: I think it's on Netflix. Yeah, I think. But it's. It's. It's all right. It's. It's Resident Evil. [00:43:17] Speaker D: Y. [00:43:17] Speaker C: It feels Resident Evil. [00:43:18] Speaker B: So it's campy. [00:43:19] Speaker A: Yeah. So it's actually based around Raccoon City, not like this film which seems to be based in Fargo. [00:43:25] Speaker C: It clearly has something to do with the game. [00:43:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:43:28] Speaker A: So quickly to recap it. Film set in during. The film is set during the events of Resident Evil 2. We all watched the trailer went, how so? [00:43:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:43:39] Speaker C: Yes. [00:43:40] Speaker B: It's a weird one because it is like set during. It's saying that, but at the same time it's snowing and it wasn't snowing in Resident Evil 2. And like, even if we make the argument of like, oh, it's in the mountains, it's in the Arklay mountains and. And stuff and was like, yeah, but the Spencer mansion is in the Arklay mountains and it wasn't snowing there either. It wasn't even one. And that was around the same time. [00:43:59] Speaker C: And he runs down a street with a load of high rise buildings, loads of cars and stuff. It's like, okay. [00:44:04] Speaker A: But yeah, it follows Austin Abrams playing Brian, a medical courier who is caught during the viral outbreak of infected monsters and had to fight for his survival. So we do see a bit of him at some kind of deserted farmhouse and then a bit of him in a drain with a rather fat man who's naked. [00:44:21] Speaker B: I mean, that checks out for Resident Evil, honestly. [00:44:24] Speaker C: You see, I'm more interested in the idea of what the heck's a medical courier? What's he courying and where's he courying from? And to. [00:44:31] Speaker A: I'm assuming he's probably got something horrible that is taken to the Umbrella Corporation. [00:44:35] Speaker C: That's the giveaway. This little messenger packet. It's got the Umbrella Corporation logo on it. [00:44:42] Speaker B: There's a lot of like, things that need to be transported medically. That that require special treatment in transport. [00:44:48] Speaker C: But it's not going to be some rando on a bike. You're going to transport a couple of [00:44:52] Speaker A: vials of T virus in the back [00:44:53] Speaker C: of his car, just in his little haversack on the back of his thing. He gets to the hospital on his bike and they just hand it over. [00:45:00] Speaker A: Yep. And then that's the end of the film. I'm done now. [00:45:04] Speaker B: And then Resident Evil 2 happens. [00:45:06] Speaker A: Yes, but I mean, Zach Kreger has a good critical reception for his two [00:45:13] Speaker B: for most of us. [00:45:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:14] Speaker C: Sorry, Keith. [00:45:15] Speaker B: But I enjoyed Weapons. [00:45:18] Speaker A: Yes. I enjoyed Barbarian, which is probably his less regarded but better film in my opinion. I'd say Barbarian's better one out of the two. [00:45:25] Speaker B: I've just not seen Barbarian, but I [00:45:29] Speaker D: very much enjoyed both of them and I am looking forward to this. [00:45:33] Speaker C: I'm fully expecting the first half of the film to be like, okay, this is interesting. And the second half goes, yeah, whatever. [00:45:39] Speaker B: I'm curious about it just because I did enjoy Weapons. And I think that's the fact that it sort of does get a bit ridiculous towards the end. Is very Resident Evil. [00:45:48] Speaker A: Anyway, Barbarian gets more ridiculous towards the end. [00:45:51] Speaker B: And I think, I think because of that, I think it might work. And I think I'm curious to see how it connects to the Resident Evil universe. But even if it doesn't connect that well, I think it could still be a good time. [00:46:03] Speaker A: I mean, you look at the Resident Evil games and they go from what is pretty much a straightforward locked room horror mystery for the first game to the latest game, which has. [00:46:13] Speaker B: I'm going to talk about this later. [00:46:15] Speaker A: Yes, but it has a motorcycle chase through a ruined city while so many just randomly fires RPGs off like every 30 seconds. [00:46:23] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm going to go into this later. [00:46:25] Speaker C: I'm fully expecting this to be a post credit scene where like this medical courier's there, all kind of huffing and puffing with like no weapons left. And some recognizable character or the silhouette will step in and go. [00:46:36] Speaker A: It'll be Albert Wesker. It'll be Albert Wesker putting shades on. [00:46:40] Speaker C: All right, if that happens. [00:46:41] Speaker A: Played by Carl Urban with a blond hairdo. [00:46:44] Speaker C: See, now you're gonna make me go and see this film because if that happens, I'm on board. [00:46:48] Speaker A: Yes. [00:46:49] Speaker D: Okay, cool. [00:46:50] Speaker A: Right, next film along Practical Magic 2 Witchy Boogaloo. [00:46:56] Speaker C: Official title, folks. [00:46:58] Speaker A: So it's 28 years since the original film. So, yeah, the original film came out in 1998 starring Sandra Bullock, Nicole Kidman, Stockwell Channing Diane west, they're all back for this one. So it's reprising their roles in the previous film with some new cast members, including Jerry King, Maisie Williams, Lee Pace and Zolo Maraduena, who was the Blue Beetle. And he did really good job as a Blue Beetle, which is the one thing that I wish they'd kept from the DC universe. [00:47:23] Speaker C: And Cobra Kai, of course. [00:47:25] Speaker A: Yeah. So set 25 years after the events of the first film, follows the Owens family, who are, like, suspected to be witches in the area. But the first film, basically, anybody. The two daughters who were in the original film, Sandra Bullock, Nicole Kidman, if they fall in love with somebody, something unpleasant usually happens to them, to the state of. They're no longer breathing. So, yeah, so this kind of follows that generation going down. So Sally's daughter, who's played by Jerry King and follows the abilities the multigenerational witches thing in appreciates. Sam Lee, probably not seen the original film in 1998. It does have an amazing 1998 vibe trailer to watch. [00:48:09] Speaker B: But, yeah, I genuinely have never heard of the original film. [00:48:14] Speaker A: I mean, what do you think, though? I mean, does it tempt you to go back and watch it? It's kind of mysterious, kind of, again, Pacific Northwest feel. [00:48:23] Speaker C: I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm kind of tempted to go to the. The cinema to see it. I mean, it's a huge. Practical Magic is a hugely popular film. It's got a massive fan base, but a lot of people kind of have a lot of really, kind of like, fondness for it. And I kind of like, if they can do the Legacy sequel like they've done with Top Gun, like they've done with, like, Tron or whatever it is, [00:48:43] Speaker A: it could be really good afterlife to a certain extent. [00:48:46] Speaker C: So it could be really interesting. Both, like, Bullock and Kidman look great still. And I, you know, I think they've got talent. [00:48:56] Speaker A: They can bring you. [00:48:57] Speaker C: The supporting cast, like, look like they, you know, they can do something interesting with it. Yeah, it could be. It could be a lot of fun. [00:49:03] Speaker A: I mean, Stockholm Channing, Diane west, great, great supporting actresses. And I think, yeah, some really good casting for the new one. Jerry King is probably on quite a bit of a rise to stardom at the moment. You've done a lot of good films. Maisie Williams, of course, Every Day of Thrones. [00:49:18] Speaker C: I think as long as it's better than a Hocus Pocus revival, we're on to a winner. I think. I think it's. It's A. It's a film that will do well. Yeah, you know, it's got a cult following. [00:49:30] Speaker D: I think it's. [00:49:31] Speaker C: I think it's kind of cool. [00:49:32] Speaker A: I'm. [00:49:32] Speaker C: I might be tempted to go to the flicks if it's a weekend where it's a little bit quieter and there's not. Not an awful lot else out. I might go just for that kind of nostalgic vibe. And you know, I did have a thing for Sandra Bullock in the day as well, so. [00:49:48] Speaker B: Not anymore. [00:49:50] Speaker C: Well, she's not in an awful lot of stuff nowadays. [00:49:53] Speaker A: Good old Sandy Bollock. But yeah, I was wondering why there was such a big gap. But this is based on a 2021 follow up novel to the original novel by Alice Hoffman. So that's why it's taken so long to get this kind of sequel made. Yeah, yeah, it looks alright. [00:50:05] Speaker C: Got potential. [00:50:06] Speaker A: Bit Lee Pace as well. I'm always happy to see Lee Pace on the screen. He doesn't get enough stuff. We'll not talk about foundation. Final trailer that we've looked at for this one. Jackass best and last, right? I appreciate this is a bit of a weird trailer for us because it's not something we'd usually cover, but I thought it was looking at because pretty much 25 years on from Jackass starting off, I think 2001, October. [00:50:33] Speaker C: Just don't say how long ago it was because that's just making everybody feel. [00:50:37] Speaker B: See I did watch the original Jackass series, but that's because I was a teenager and therefore an idiot. And exactly the target audience for Jackass at the time to be fair. But I'm just fascinated by like the fact that like they're all so much older in the trailer. It's very noticeable, especially Johnny Knoxville with his just shocking white hair and then. But I'm just thinking like doing all those stunts now like as old men. Yeah, that's just gonna ruin like everything. [00:51:07] Speaker A: So it's described as a reality slapstick comedy film, which is an interesting choice there from Wikipedia. Directed by Jeff Tremaine who's pretty much done most of the thing, pretty much 90% of the jackass stuff. Produced by Tremaine, Spike Johns, Johnny Knoxville. It's going to be the final installment of Jackass in the films after this. [00:51:28] Speaker B: Doing this one, their knees are just giving out. [00:51:31] Speaker A: So what they're going to do is have some old footage, some new footage, bit of. Of talking heads bringing back some of the biggest stunts from the entire franchise run and then put a few brand new ones. In as well. [00:51:42] Speaker B: And then it's going to end with them all just in hospital. [00:51:46] Speaker C: I don't think that's all the stuff. I don't think this will be the last thing they ever do. [00:51:50] Speaker A: I mean, weirdly, I enjoy watching them in a kind of perverse kind of. [00:51:57] Speaker B: I mean, that's the. That's kind of the idea fascination. [00:52:00] Speaker C: It's legalized savings. [00:52:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:52:02] Speaker C: Really. I mean, I was probably a little bit too old when the first series came out because I was in my 30s at that point. And I did watch the occasional one because you just went, how stupid can these people be? And you go, yeah, pretty stupid. [00:52:14] Speaker A: But it encapsulated that kind of weird time where people got access to cameras doing these home films. And it was kind of that. That early kind of, let's just go out and make something stupid. [00:52:26] Speaker C: Well, I loved it in a sense, because it kind of took the kind of comedy slapstick stuff. So I like things like, you know, bottom Dangerous Brothers with the pretend getting whacked in the nuts with a cricket bat, and then these guys just actually whacked each other in the nuts with a cricket bat. And that kind of stuff like swearing is infinitely funny. [00:52:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:52:43] Speaker C: And you can't not laugh at somebody getting punched in the ghoulies, so. [00:52:47] Speaker A: And I think part of the charm is they all know what they've signed themselves up for and they all fully go into it with two feet, even though they know they're gonna get shot hurt quite badly. [00:52:58] Speaker C: I think the thing is now is, looking at them doing it when they're in their 50s and 60s and you're just going, nah, man, I can fully relate to that. You just go, no, just not. [00:53:07] Speaker D: You've got a nice comfy armchair at home. [00:53:10] Speaker A: So what are you doing? I mean, the premise of this one is they're going to do the world's worst escape room. Sounds quite weirdly fun to kind of bring it up to that modern audience. And the dick, the bit in the trailer with the robot and the digit. [00:53:25] Speaker C: No, just. Even the idea of that is bad. Although I do like the bit where it flicks backwards and catches Johnny in the. [00:53:33] Speaker A: So that's funny. I mean, it just reminds me of a simpler time when this was like MTV at its PK day. It was this Pimp My Ride and kind of that house show where they basically just went round and saw that people had copies of Scarface on DVD and everybody's house. Yeah, Cribs. [00:53:50] Speaker C: But yeah, again, it was a show that everybody watched. [00:53:53] Speaker A: Yeah. And it was probably impersonated and intimate by lots of teenagers at the time. [00:54:01] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:54:02] Speaker C: I kind of like the idea that you watch it being done to other people and it's not you that's having it done to you. So that's. That's nice. I'm quite happy for Steve O and Johnny to undergo this. [00:54:11] Speaker A: There's a little bit of kind of like that scientific intrigue of what would happen if you put somebody in the balls with a cannon. [00:54:18] Speaker B: Oh, it would hurt a lot. [00:54:19] Speaker A: Okay, let's not do that now. [00:54:21] Speaker D: We know. [00:54:23] Speaker C: But it's that idea of going, do you think it would hurt? And you kind of go, it's gonna [00:54:27] Speaker A: hurt, but how much is it gonna hurt? [00:54:30] Speaker C: Let's just check. [00:54:32] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. It's kind of. I think I'll be watching that on. When it comes out on streaming maybe. I don't think it's a cinema experience, to be honest, but it's kind of nice to close the loop. Yeah. [00:54:45] Speaker C: I think it's a one for the home because every so often you're going to have to pause it and just [00:54:48] Speaker A: go, oh, man, that's just. [00:54:51] Speaker C: That must have hurt. [00:54:52] Speaker A: So let's go through and pick our favorite trailer. So to recap, we've got Wildwood, the Odyssey, which is not going to be Keith Stuart Fails to Save the Universe, Acme vs K, Resident Evil, Practical Magic 2, and Jackass. Best and last. [00:55:06] Speaker C: I'll go first. Mine's a tie, unfortunately. [00:55:10] Speaker A: No, you can only choose one. No, I'm not. We're strapping you to a cinema chair and you're allowed one film. [00:55:16] Speaker C: It's Wildwood, Coyote versus Acme. [00:55:19] Speaker A: No, no, pick one. [00:55:20] Speaker B: No, I can't pick one. [00:55:21] Speaker A: You've gotta pick. [00:55:22] Speaker C: Okay? In which case, then I will pick Wildwood. I will pick Wildwood. But you should go and watch Acme vs. Coyote. Verse. [00:55:29] Speaker B: Cool. [00:55:30] Speaker A: Sam. [00:55:31] Speaker D: I'm also going Wildwood. [00:55:33] Speaker B: I'm going Coyote versus Acme. So there we go. [00:55:35] Speaker C: That's fine. That's good. [00:55:43] Speaker A: No, I was going to be controversial, but. [00:55:45] Speaker C: Yeah, be controversial. I can push you off the chair. Practical magic, too. [00:55:51] Speaker A: I think it's got to be Wildwood. Yeah, of course it is, because it just looks so beautifully made and it's just the pinnacle of Leica. [00:55:59] Speaker D: Yeah, Wildwood does look great. [00:56:01] Speaker B: But I think I'm so excited for [00:56:05] Speaker C: this is why it's a bit cruel. You made me only pick one because, [00:56:08] Speaker A: you know, I'm just thinking like, Kubo and the Two Strings is a film. I really, really Love. And this comes to fill that little bit of vibe of magic and that experience. So that's why I'm going for this one though. Acme versus Kote does look fun, but I think as a cinematic experience, Wildwood will be the more cinematic. [00:56:25] Speaker C: Oh yeah, I agree with that 100%. Yeah. [00:56:28] Speaker A: So if it was going to the cinema, I would say Worldwood, but Worldwide for the art. Yes. [00:56:33] Speaker B: Coyote versus Acme for the fun. [00:56:34] Speaker A: Yes. [00:56:35] Speaker D: Yeah, there you go. [00:56:36] Speaker A: Jackass for the lolz. [00:56:37] Speaker C: It's a shame they're not both coming out at the same time. And I could do both like double bill. Double bill, yeah. [00:56:42] Speaker A: Smell like the Barbenheimer. [00:56:45] Speaker C: But both will be good. [00:56:47] Speaker A: Yes. [00:56:48] Speaker C: Instead of the one not being quite as good. [00:56:50] Speaker A: Nothing will ever beat the experience of watching Barbie and hearing the bomb go off in a Bottleheimer next door. And most of the audience in Barbie just giggling along because it's like, oh, they've got to that point of the film. But yeah. So our recommendation would probably be Wildwood followed by Acme versus Cody. Yep. It's our regular bits of where we choose the one geek thing that has been interesting us since the last recording. Be it film, tv, video game, comic, or any kind of geeky pursuit or interest since our last one. So I'm going to start off this time with spoilers. Lee, who's probably picked Resident Evil 8. [00:57:31] Speaker B: Yes. No. Resident Evil 9. [00:57:33] Speaker D: 9. [00:57:33] Speaker B: Sorry, yes. As I sort of alluded to in the trailer talk. Yeah, I've been playing, I've played through Resident Evil Requiem, which is just a phenomenal game. So what is great about this one is it kind of takes the entire series to date and mushes it into one big game. So obviously the first three Resident Evils are very sort of, you know, you're going around a place, you're solving puzzles. You know, it's very much about the survival thing. And then with Resident Evil 4, it moved into a more action oriented thing for a few games. And then 7 and 8 were more veering back to the horror, but it was a slightly different flavor of horror, especially with the first person perspective. With Requiem, they've taken the sort of original Resident Evil formula and the sort of seven and Village formula and kind of combined those into Grace's gameplay. So she is the newcomer for the series. She's like the daughter of a character from Resident Evil Outbreak, which is the online PS2 thing that barely anyone played. But her mom is in Requiem briefly. And then Leon shows up, good old Leon S. Kennedy from Resident Evil 2 and 4. And basically his section is the action oriented side of things. And they've managed to sort of combine both of those into one game. And it actually really works quite well. So the story behind this is you've got Grace, who is an FBI agent, although she is the most nervous FBI agent I have ever seen. [00:59:14] Speaker A: I think she's on day one or two of the job, basically. [00:59:17] Speaker B: She's like, she works a desk job at the FBI. She's an analyst who just sits on the computer and does all that. And then some boss is like, no, now you need to go out into the field on your own to the hotel where your mother was murdered and do this thing. I'm just like, this feels like like terrible FBI protocol. But then like she gets captured and she gets taken to like the. This sort of care center asylum and. And basically just has to survive in there. And then Leon shows up in the middle of all of this, just blasts zombies, drop kicks them in the face, and then drives his Porsche around. And then he goes into Raccoon City for his section of the game and sort of revisits the ruins of Raccoon City as it sort of, sort of returns to basically where everything went horribly wrong for him. But then his whole section is just like, you're dodging zombies who now have guns and can operate mortars. And you're again dropkicking everything and hatcheting everything in the face. And it's just like, it's such a contrast. You're running around as Grace and it's just this. [01:00:33] Speaker D: It's. [01:00:34] Speaker B: You're fighting for your life. You've got barely any ammo, you take very little damage. And then you switch to Leon and you're just destroying everything in your path and you're driving a motorcycle up the side of a building and it's. It's the most ridiculous thing in the world. And. But it manages to do both sides really, really well and it manages to contrast them complete. Like, both of them have completely different UI and gameplay despite, like, they feel similar. At first it's the same similar sort of control scheme. But then you feel the difference between the two different characters. You know, Grace has got like six inventory slots and is like, you have to constantly manage that. Whereas Leon's got the full attache case from Resident Evil 4 again. And like, it was so ridiculous when I opened his inventory for the first time and it was just like after having this tiny little thing in the corner of the screen from Grace and Leon just has this massive thing that fills the screen and I'M just like, well, okay, I can see the difference. You know, every. In his section, enemies are dropping ammo constantly. And in Grace's section, it's like you're scrambling around trying to find crafting materials. And it's ridiculous, but it's such a fun experience, and it manages to sort of bring, like, the whole history of the series into, like, one big thing. [01:01:52] Speaker A: So I've heard, like, the Leon Kennedy bits are a bit like a palate cleanser at some point. So you basically have the whole survival horror experience with Grace, and it gets really, really tense. And then they'll throw in a Leon bit to give you a bit of a break. [01:02:04] Speaker B: Yeah, a lot of the Grace bits. It's better to sort of try and avoid direct combat, especially when you get, like, the big guys that. There's one bit earlier, like, I think it's like in the East Wing, where you go and pick up this key item and just this massive thing just charges at you from nowhere, and you're just like, ah, I need to leave. And then you get to Leon's bit. Well, I think the thing that exemplifies the difference between them is you have this whole section where you're trying to evade this massive creature as Grace very early on, and then you get to the end of that section and then Leon just shows up and headshots it once, and that's. That's it. And it's like, okay, cool, I see. I see how different these characters are. [01:02:51] Speaker A: So where do you think they'll go with the franchise from here, then? If this is like the distillation of the previous 80s, it's really difficult to [01:02:57] Speaker B: say, especially with sort of how it sort of pans out towards the end, because it does feel like this feels like a big grand finale for the series. But I'm sure they'll find some ridiculous way of carrying it on. It's one of Capcom's biggest franchises. They're not gonna just go, well, that's [01:03:16] Speaker D: the end of that. [01:03:17] Speaker B: They'll find something. I'm curious to see where they take it, but, you know, for what they've done with this, it's like a really solid celebration of everything we've had so far. [01:03:31] Speaker A: Worth playing on PC and assume every console. [01:03:34] Speaker B: PC, PS5, Xbox. [01:03:36] Speaker A: Not Switch 2 yet. [01:03:37] Speaker B: Not Switch 2 yet. Oh, no, it is on Switch 2, I think. Yeah. [01:03:41] Speaker A: So there you go. Fully, fully solved. [01:03:42] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:03:42] Speaker B: Because Nintendo and Capcom have a very good relationship. [01:03:44] Speaker C: So, yeah, it seems like a return to form for me, really. [01:03:49] Speaker B: And also, what I liked about it is that I could play Grace's section in third person because I didn't really gel with the first person stuff in the previous games. Awesome. [01:04:00] Speaker A: Sam, how about yourself? [01:04:03] Speaker D: So my one geek thing this month is Daredevil Born Again, which [01:04:10] Speaker A: just concluded. [01:04:11] Speaker D: I think it has indeed. Yes. So it was. Season two has just finished. So Daredevil was obviously originally a Netflix series, had a reputation for being a slightly darker kind of series compared to a lot of the other sort of superhero stuff going on at the time. Had, I think, three or four seasons on Netflix, plus three. Thank you, Keith. Yeah. And then Disney brought it back a year or two ago now with Daredevil Born Again. I really loved the first season. I thought it captured the kind of tone of the original really nicely. And yeah, the second season's just been really exciting, I thought. So. It sort of starts out in a place where Kingpin, who is one of the best villains in any Marvel piece, I think is mayor of New York City. He's in a position of power. He's got his own basically private army, the anti vigilante task force, who are ostensibly there to round up a particular type of dangerous criminal, but are basically being used to capture or disable any of his opponents or anyone he doesn't like, which has some quite obvious parallels with of other political figures and groups at the moment, which it handles really well. I think it sort of plays that. That kind of card without being too obviously kind of beating you over the head with it. And yeah, I just think it's worth watching just for Kingpin. He has some interesting sort of character arcs in this, where. Where he has highs and lows, but there are moments where he gets to really let loose as a sort of proper physical threat. And particularly in the finale, he gets. There's a very classic scene in the first series of the Netflix Daredevil where he has a sort of corridor fight scene and Kingpin gets his corridor fight scene. And just the difference between the way the two characters approach that situation is quite spectacular. So, yeah, just for Kingpin alone, it's worth watching. But Charlie Cox's Daredevil, Matt Murdock is always brilliant as well. They get to actually have a sort of courtroom drama element as well, which I quite liked from the original series. He's not just relying on being a superhero. He's actually like, Matt Murdock has a chance to shine as well. And they also bring back Jessica Jones, who was the other highlight of the original Netflix Defenders series. And yeah, she's like her character has had some. Some life changes since we last saw her kind of thing. And it's quite nice to kind of catch up with her. They did Nerf her powers slightly, which I was a little bit disappointed by, but it does give them a reason for her not to just go and overpower Kingpin and make it a very short series. So, yeah, I really, really enjoyed that. [01:07:53] Speaker A: Yeah. I think Vincent Dofrio, anybody else who's going to play the Kingpin is. Was going to really struggle now because pretty much embodied that character completely. And Charlie Cox is fantastic as Daredevil. But I think as you said, vincentofeo has always been the standout, even back in the original Netflix series. I mean, that whole bit with the card or scene, I think that really set his character path out. [01:08:14] Speaker D: Yes. Yeah. [01:08:17] Speaker A: Yeah. So on Disney plus here in the uk it is indeed awesome. Keith, how about yourself? [01:08:23] Speaker C: Well, I'm going to pick something that I've not been able to talk about anywhere else, I think because I don't do DC and Marvel Comics on a Wednesday night when I'll do the comics roundup. There has been a series which I've been absolutely overwhelmed by that's been running through DC's absolute line, which started with Absolute Batman. Absolute Superman. Absolute Wonder Woman. So they got the trinity of those, which is quite cool reading Absolute Batman. [01:08:52] Speaker B: When you said absolute Batman, I just was like imagining a really huge Batman. [01:08:56] Speaker C: He is a really huge Batman. It's not he is a big man. But the standout series for me so far has been Absolute Manhunter, which is [01:09:07] Speaker B: written by just the name [01:09:10] Speaker C: superheroes. [01:09:11] Speaker D: You gotta go with it. [01:09:12] Speaker A: Just got this image of Dog the bounty hunter just let his blonde. [01:09:16] Speaker C: So it's written by Dennis Cow. [01:09:18] Speaker B: Just hearing it in a British accent every time. Absolute manhood. [01:09:21] Speaker D: Absolute manhood. [01:09:23] Speaker C: It's drawn and colored by Javier Rodriguez and he's lettered by Hassan Otzmani Elahu. I hope I've got your name right, sir. And it's part of the absolute thing was is I'm going to go into this because just because that's how I do it. At the end of some of the events, Darkseid did this thing and it caused the thing and there was a splinter universe. [01:09:46] Speaker A: So they've got sounds about right for comic books. [01:09:50] Speaker C: So all of the kind of older heroes have been reinvented in ways that take away something they had before. So in Batman, he hasn't got his billions with Superman, he doesn't arrive as a child. He said he lived on Krypton with Wonder Woman. She's not the God, the daughter of Zeus or whatever he is. They changed a lot of things around. And with the Martian Manhunter, who's an actual in the main universe, is an actual Martian in this one. It involves an FBI agent called John Jones, which is the pseudonym that the Martian Manhunter takes on in the main universe. And he's kind of taken over by this consciousness, this entity which manifests itself as a Green Martian. And it's kind of there following. He's moved to a town called Middleton. He's trying to solve these crimes, and having been embodied with this consciousness, he gets what they call Martian vision. And he can see, like smoke and auras around people and it helps him solve crimes. It's kind of like a psychological thriller. There's a lot going on. The artwork is absolutely beautiful and it's very kind of pop arty. It's very kind of. It's not muted or dark like some of the other titles are. This is very much. It's all about the colors. And the reason I talked about Hassan as well is that it's all the colouring, it's all the art, it's all the lettering merging together to create this incredible world that these guys have created. It kind of ran for six issues originally. There was a bit of a gap, and now it's come back for another six. It ends its 12 issue run next month as we're recording. So in June will be the final issue. But it really gave me kind of old school Vertigo vibes. It's a little bit weird, a little bit quirky, really intense, lots going on, really beautifully written beautifully, lots of bright character moments. He's got his whole family and stuff and, you know, John's relationship with his wife and his son and all the rest of it. And there's elements of Shade the Changing man as well in there that I kind of liked Pete Milligan series from the back in the 80s and 90s, but for me it's been the standout title in the absolute range because it just has done something so uniquely different with the character, but still comes across as like, you know, just an amazing series in its own right. [01:12:15] Speaker A: I'm aware of Absolute Batman, mainly because they've been riffing off every single anime with their cover design, so they didn't like a career or chainsaw one, etc. So a lot of the COVID have just been homages to very famous anime scenes and stuff. [01:12:30] Speaker C: Yeah, there's been a lot of that. But the Martian mantle one's kind of pretty much I don't think they've done that many variant covers. And I like the Batman stuff. It's kind of cool, but it's still playing too much on what we know of Batman as a character. There's certain elements that have gone away, but it's still quintessentially Batman. Whereas this version of the Martian Man Tunter is just playing with something really different. It's playing on a lot of of levels. It's multi layered. It's really, really nicely done. The creators themselves have decided that this 12 issue run is what they're going to do. So there's the potential that DC could kind of bring it back, but I don't think it will work with a different creative team because part of what makes it work so well is the look and the style. So I think doing it another way is going to be. I can't see how they're going to do it if they do decide to bring it back with a different creative team. But if you, if you kind of want to get involved in the, the absolute universe, I'd say this would be my pick. The others are ongoing. So we're up to like 20, 24, 25 issues of Batman. There's quite a lot of Superman, but Martian Mandator for me has just been a standout title. Wasn't expecting it to be as good as it was and, and I've been blown away with literally every issue. So. Yeah, so if you kind of of are interested in that kind of weird. Slightly weird. There's like elements of kind of twin peaksiness and stuff to it as well. There's all kind of like. Yeah, you know, it's got that vibe of kind of like, oh, this is all a bit kind of odd and weird and I absolutely love it. Absolutely love Absolute Manhunter. [01:14:02] Speaker A: Yeah, I was gonna say the COVID art gives me that real kind of Saul Bass. [01:14:06] Speaker C: Yeah, it's very much that kind of like 60s, kind of pop arty vibe. It's, it's phenomenal. It's really good. So I highly recommend it. So check it out if you haven't already. [01:14:16] Speaker A: Thank you. [01:14:17] Speaker C: DC comic book store dc. [01:14:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:14:20] Speaker C: Available online. Physically, I think the first six issues have been collected, but the second run at the moment is still in single issue, so you won't get the complete story until that's finished in June. [01:14:32] Speaker A: Awesome. Thank you. [01:14:34] Speaker D: Right. [01:14:34] Speaker A: I don't think there's any big surprise about this one because I've been chatting about this in the the show chat for a week and friend of the Show Phil got me onto this, but it is Dungeon Crawler Carl, which is apparently over every single other person's social media completely because the eighth book in the series has just came out. I'm about six books in and that's in the space of a month because it is just that addictive. But Science Fantasy LitRPG, which is a genre I've never heard of, which is basically a literary RPG where you're reading along Guzzler, the player character is the kind of the dominant person in the book. But yep. So Dungeon Crawler call, you've probably heard about it. Author Matt Dinnemann. He originally self published the books. First one came out in 2020 and then it was purchased by Ace Books in 2024. But there has been some of the best audiobooks I have ever put into my ears by the amazing voice actor Jeff Hayes, who prick does 99.9% of the voice acting in the book. And when you listen to it, you will not believe that one person has done all these voices. He is absolutely fantastic. But yeah, the series starts off with British apocalypse on the Earth. It gets turned into a game show planet. So mild spoilers, but every building, car, everything gets flattened on the Earth. And if you were outside, you're one of the lucky ones because you're one of the survivors because everybody else has just been. And yeah, they turn the Earth into a dungeon themed game show which the entire universe is kind of a big thing that they do every few years and then. Yeah, so it becomes an intergalactic reality dungeon game show. And then the survivors are basically drawn in and turned into characters in this show. So it's kind of. They all pick character classes etc and then how do they fight through? And there's like 18 levels to try and and descend and they progressively get harder and harder. So the main character is a guy called Carl, as you probably expect, ex United States Coast Guard. And he's partnered up with his sentient ex girlfriend's cat, Princess Donut. And it's their journey. [01:16:40] Speaker B: I feel like that description was a little bit like sentient ex girlfriend cat. [01:16:45] Speaker A: Yes. [01:16:45] Speaker B: Like his ex girlfriend was sentient. I would hope so. [01:16:49] Speaker A: No, he basically the whole thing starts off with he has to try and get. The cat has escaped the hill, so he gets to try and bring the cat back in. And that's the premise of the planet being turned into this game show. And then the cat gains sentience after eating an enchanted pet biscuit. [01:17:07] Speaker B: It's just the placement of the word sentient in us. [01:17:10] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah. So basically there's lots of other characters. Mordecai, Katya Mongo, who is her pet virgin Velociraptor. [01:17:18] Speaker C: Yes. [01:17:19] Speaker B: Okay. [01:17:20] Speaker A: And yeah, so yeah, just casually throwing out that. Yep. Yeah. And then yeah, so there's a big character, a range of characters including Gazeva, talking fish. But yeah, it's kind of gained steam very recently. I mean I think the first book came out in 2020 so it gained. Matt Dinnerman started off doing other books and then he started publishing them, self publishing them from Amazon and they got really popular and then it got picked up as by Penguin Random House. But yeah, the audiobooks are apparently the main way that people are getting into it, mainly due to the fantastic narration of Jeff Hayes. But yeah, they've oversold, I think physical copies like 6 million plus audiobooks now, I think. So it's really, really popular and they're actually currently remaking them into a full audio casted version of the books with sound effects and everything else. So there's three versions. Basically you can really imprint the audiobooks, which probably I would say is. My choice is. If you're going to get involve yourself into the universe, try the audiobooks by Jeff Hayes because he's such a fantastic voice artist. And then there's this kind of sound booth theatre which is his company doing also full produced versions of them. But yeah, I'm not going to go into it too much but the latest book called A Parade of of Horribles has just dropped out now. So that's the eighth book in the series and if you think this guy has gone through eight books in six years and they're all quite hefty tomes and it is an absolutely fantastic. [01:18:49] Speaker C: I'm just looking at the length of the audiobooks. [01:18:50] Speaker A: Yes. [01:18:51] Speaker C: And like obviously the first one's 13 and a half hours and I'm thinking blooming out. [01:18:55] Speaker D: That's a lot. [01:18:55] Speaker C: Then he's scrolled down. It's like 20 hours. [01:18:57] Speaker A: Yeah. The light. Wow. The latest, well, the inevitable 28 hours is 28 hours from 40 minutes. So the latest release is Parade of Horribles. That's only clocking at 20 hours, so it's a bit shorter. But I'm currently midway through the Eyes of the Bedlam Bride, which is 26 hours and 46 minutes. [01:19:14] Speaker C: I mean it's literally in the last two weeks I've become more aware of this. [01:19:20] Speaker A: When we were at [01:19:23] Speaker C: Free Comic Book Day, they put a comic out to go with it and I'd seen, I think I'd seen one of the books in a bookshop while I was looking for some other books, kind of looked at it, thought this looks cute, I might think about it and then totally forgot about it. And then suddenly the first I'd heard [01:19:39] Speaker B: of it was like literally right before then was the YouTuber Ginny D, who does like D and D content. She did a video about the RPG they're releasing based on it and sort of going through the mechanics of it and sort of doing character creation in that system. And that was like the first I'd really heard of it. And then suddenly I'm seeing it everywhere. [01:19:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:19:59] Speaker B: You know. [01:20:00] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. It has just completely exploded in popularity and I think as part of it is Backerkit put a lot of money behind the advertising campaign because it's an RPG and a trading card game at the same time. So they're doing both. They put a lot behind that release Audible because it's an Audible exclusive, unfortunately. So if you don't like Jeff Bezos in his media empire, you're going to struggle to find them else elsewhere. I think they are available on Apple Books or on Spotify to stream. [01:20:27] Speaker C: It's weird because the first few books are still almost print on demand because I looked at picking up the books and was like, oh yeah, it'll take about two or three weeks to deliver this first one or the first two that are still. So I'm assuming at some point now it's reached this, they're going to get republished. Yeah. And they'll be the kind of like eight volume box set. [01:20:48] Speaker A: Penguin Random House, I think. But the, the artwork on the newer releases is absolutely fantastic as well. It's really eye catching. But yeah, it's about to be adapted into a TV show. I think Seth MacFarlane's company, Christopher Yost is involved and it's gonna be for Peacock. So there. [01:21:05] Speaker B: No one's gonna watch it then. [01:21:07] Speaker A: Yeah, there's a graphic novel said there's a board games coming out. Playmates, toys are picked up to do a range of toys based on it. Yeah. Renegade. [01:21:17] Speaker C: There'll be a Princess Donut plushie at some point, I'm sure. I'm sure. [01:21:20] Speaker A: Yeah. And the webcomic which also. [01:21:22] Speaker C: Well, no, it's finally arrived when there's a Funko Pop. [01:21:25] Speaker D: Oh God. [01:21:27] Speaker A: But yeah, I mean, I would say the writing is not Pulitzer Prize winning, but it's a fantastic story and you get really engaged with the characters and it has these moments of path. There's some really strong moments of comedy. There's some really strong moments of pathos in there and they do massively keep you engaged. And you do really learn to feel and love these characters and yeah, and say one more time, Jeff Hayes, best audiobook narrator I've ever heard. So go and check him out. Cool. And that was our geek things to recap. [01:22:00] Speaker B: Lee Resident Evil Requiem Sam Daredevil Born [01:22:04] Speaker C: again Keith Absolute manhunter from DC Comics [01:22:07] Speaker A: and made the Dungeon Crawler Carl series of books. Thank you for joining us on this issue of Geeky Bromy. Don't forget you can find us if you're watching us on YouTube and you can watch previous episodes or on Spotify if you want to watch us on Spotify or via audio on your streaming service of choice. Lee, where can we find you online? [01:22:32] Speaker B: You can find me on YouTube at BobBePetFarret and BlueSky under the same name. And also you can find me every Friday on the geekybrymi website doing the games roundup. [01:22:44] Speaker A: Awesome. Sam, how are yourself? [01:22:46] Speaker D: You can find me dedwards89 on bluesky threads and Instagram and every Thursday on the geekybrammy website doing the film roundup. 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