Golden Globe Nominations | Game Awards | Warner Bros Discovery Sale

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Hello, and welcome to the geeky Premiere Podcast. Joining me today, Mr. Sam Edwards. [00:00:04] Speaker B: Hello. [00:00:04] Speaker A: Mr. Lee Price. [00:00:05] Speaker C: Hello. [00:00:06] Speaker A: And Mr. Keith Bloomfield. [00:00:07] Speaker D: Ho, ho, ho, everybody. [00:00:09] Speaker A: How the devil are we all on this run up to the crazy period that is the festive season here in the uk? [00:00:15] Speaker C: Tired. [00:00:18] Speaker B: Looking forward to Christmas? [00:00:19] Speaker A: Yes. Looking forward to the break coming up today, we will be talking about the game awards that have just come along. We'll be going through the BAFTA long list of nominations. There'll be a few surprises for the team as well. And we'll also be talking about who's going to be purchasing Warner Brothers, because we still don't know someone with lots of money is going to be buying Warner Brothers. But it could be Netflix, it could be Paramount, we could have a challenger come off the top rope. We don't know. But all of that after this. It is the start of award season, so everybody knows it runs pretty much between the winter and spring of each year, pretty much checking out what stuff has come out over the last 12 months. And the first one to come along is always the Golden Globes. So we're just gonna have a look at some nominations and have our predictions on who we think is gonna win. So starting off, and I'm assuming Sam's gonna have very strong opinions on this one, is Best Film Drama. So we have Frankenstein, Hamnet, It Was Just An Accident, the Secret Agent, Sentimental Value, and Sinners. [00:01:48] Speaker B: So I've only actually seen one of these so far because I still haven't got around to Frankenstein and some of the others aren't even out yet. But I would very happily see Sinners win this one. I suspect it probably won't, just because it came out quite a long time ago and that's normally a bit of a death knell for nominees, but I'm very glad. [00:02:11] Speaker D: And it's a horror movie. [00:02:13] Speaker B: Yeah. Genre films don't tend to do too well. [00:02:15] Speaker D: Although saying that Del Toro is in there with Frankenstein. [00:02:19] Speaker A: Yeah, true. [00:02:20] Speaker B: But Del Toro seems to get a pass on the genre. [00:02:25] Speaker A: To be fair. I have seen the trailer for Hamnet, and that is touching. The old costume drama, period drama, bit of romance, bit of drama story. It's Story of Shakespeare, I think. And this and that becomes the Tale of Hamlet, I believe. [00:02:41] Speaker B: Yeah. And it's Paul Mescal and Jessie Buckley. We both feel. [00:02:46] Speaker A: Poor Mescal hasn't won anything yet, but he feels like he should be winning stuff by now. [00:02:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:02:52] Speaker C: The thing about that movie is every time I see the title, I think I'm misreading it. [00:02:57] Speaker A: So it's based on a novel, I think, and that was a very well received book. [00:03:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:04] Speaker A: But yeah, Sinners. I do like Sinners. It did very good technically. So I think it might win a lot more technical awards rather than actual proper awards. Well, not proper awards, sorry, more the traditional type. Prestige awards. Yes. I think it's gonna win a lot of technical stuff, especially for the way they did two Michael B. Jordans, which is a lot of dreams for some people. Anything around it was just an accident or the Secret Agent? Because I've not really heard of either of these. [00:03:32] Speaker B: I don't know much about either of those either, to be honest. I think they're both in the non English language film category as well. [00:03:43] Speaker C: Which. [00:03:43] Speaker B: Probably means they get a big release over here, but inevitably. [00:03:49] Speaker A: Cool. [00:03:49] Speaker C: Right. [00:03:49] Speaker A: Moving on to best film, Musical or comedy. So we've got Blue Moon Begonia, which feels weird being in the comedy category for that. Marty Supreme. No other choice. Nouvelle Vague and One Battle After Another. So one thing I was going to say about this, no musical biopics this year, which is quite a surprise because there's been a fair few released. [00:04:11] Speaker B: Yeah, true. [00:04:13] Speaker A: But yeah, comedy wise, I mean, Begonia, would you call it a comedy? [00:04:17] Speaker B: I think it's a dark comedy. I think a lot of Yorgos Lanthimos films kind of blur that dark comedy element, even though they are very much on the dark side. Yeah, there were definitely funny moments in there. [00:04:32] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:04:34] Speaker A: I mean, assuming Paul Thomas Anderson's One Battle After Another is probably the. The tip to pick on. [00:04:41] Speaker D: Yeah. It's weird that a lot of these films weren't massively successful at the box office. They've all been kind of middling kind of films that really haven't kind of. [00:04:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:04:52] Speaker D: Set the box office on fire, I think. One Battle After Another. Probably because it's poor Thomas Anderson and it's a much more accessible one. I think Begonia is a bit of a kind of weird left field choice because it's. [00:05:03] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:05:04] Speaker D: Bit of a quirk. [00:05:05] Speaker C: I will say that out of all of them, that's probably the only. Well, the only one that I've heard of generally like Begonia I've heard of because of Sam and literally that's it. And like One Battle after Another. I've heard more talk around in general. [00:05:20] Speaker D: But saying that poor things did relatively well a couple of years back. [00:05:23] Speaker B: So, yeah, Marty supreme is out over Christmas, I think, and that's about. It's got Guy. His name has completely gone out my head. Timothy Chalamet. [00:05:37] Speaker A: Thank you. [00:05:37] Speaker B: Yes. Really famous guy with a really distinctive name. Yeah. And it's a sort of table tennis film. But that's getting really good reviews from what I've seen so far. So that it could be a contender. And Blue Moon I think I've missed in the cinema now. But that looked quite good fun as well. It's about the person who was the sort of writing partner with one of them before they went on to become this massive double act. And him trying to deal with that. But it looks like quite a sweet film. Cool. [00:06:18] Speaker D: Just with the film. Sam, do you think it's a bit kind of unfortunate for us as Brits? Because I find it happens quite a lot with the Golden Globes and with the Oscars that we often don't get many of the big contenders until quite late on. You know, we might get them in February or just before the Oscars, but sometimes we're getting films kind of like, you know, a month or so after the results. [00:06:36] Speaker A: Kind of weird. We have that kind of wasteland between October, half term and you'll get the last batch of kids films. [00:06:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:42] Speaker A: And then pretty much we have kind of a bit of a desert until Christmas. [00:06:47] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:06:47] Speaker D: Was it like the Holdovers last year? It's a Christmasy movie and we. I think we got it after the Oscars, didn't we? In the uk, it was. It wasn't. The release schedule is really weird. [00:06:55] Speaker A: In Britain. It seems like they hold off shipping them elsewhere until they get that award buzz. [00:07:02] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:07:03] Speaker A: So they can then put it on the poster. But moving to fifth one best animated film. So we have Arco Demon Slayer, Kimetsu no Yaiba, Infinity Castle, which is a very big film this year for the anime genre. Elio, Pixar's very quiet film that came out and nobody realized existed. And then K Pop Demon Hunters, which we'll probably win just because it's K Pop Demon Hunters, Little Amelie or the character of rain. And Zootopia 2, which I know you watched a couple of weeks ago. Was it Some. [00:07:36] Speaker B: Yeah. I loved Zootopia. I did love Elio as well. I think those are the. Oh, no. I have seen K Pop Demon Hunters as well. I think I preferred Zootopia and Elio to K Pop Demon Hunters, personally. But I know it's. It's been a huge cultural phenomenon from Halloween. [00:07:54] Speaker A: Every single little girl was dressed as one of the K Pop Demon Hunters. [00:07:58] Speaker D: And seeing as they always say, oh, well, we're adults, we don't watch any of these films, we'll let our kids decide which film's gonna win. So I think it's a. It's a dead cert for K Pop Demon Hunter. [00:08:08] Speaker A: The fact that they had to release a sing along version on Netflix because everybody was just singing along anyway. Yeah, yeah. [00:08:14] Speaker C: It's like sort of just like captured cultural things elsewhere considering that it got to like the top of the golden. Got to the top of the UK charts. [00:08:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:24] Speaker C: And the Billboard charts in America. So you've got that going forward too. [00:08:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:28] Speaker D: And it's still in the public eye because it's there on Netflix. [00:08:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:31] Speaker D: A lot of the other films have kind of like had their releases and are kind of, you know, can't really re watch them again. [00:08:35] Speaker A: I'm sure there are parents who don't like the fact it's on their list. [00:08:41] Speaker D: It's the new Frozen. [00:08:43] Speaker C: Yeah. Golden is the new Let It Go. [00:08:44] Speaker B: I think. [00:08:46] Speaker C: Even though what it sounds like is the better song. [00:08:50] Speaker A: Right. We'll move swiftly on to Best Female Actor and Best Male Actor in Dramas. Bit weird that they've still got this separate because I know a lot of awards. Home Runners are changing to Best Actor act, all categories and mixing it up a bit. I suppose having them separate means that there's two awards rather than one, but. Yeah. So Best Female Actor. So we have Jessie Buckley for Hamnet, Jennifer Lawrence for Die My Love, Renate Rennisvi, Renate Reinsvi for Sentimental Value, Julia Roberts after the Hunt, Tessa Thompson for Hedda and Eva Victor for Sorry Baby. [00:09:31] Speaker B: I think the only one I've seen so far is Dine My Love. It was an incredible performance from Jennifer Lawrence. Very glad to see her nominated on there. I suspect Jessie Buckley might be in the running, but again, hard to say having not seen Hamnet yet. [00:09:50] Speaker A: And Julia Roberts, pretty much anything she acts in, she pretty much just turns. [00:09:54] Speaker D: Up, I'd say even though I've not seen either of the films. I see it's a two horse race between Jennifer Lawrence and Jessie Buckley. I prefer it to go to Lawrence just because I have a hard time with Jesse Buckley. But I think because that film's getting the buzz at the moment, I think that's probably going to steer voters in that direction. [00:10:15] Speaker A: So Best Male Actor for Drama. So we've got Joel Edgerton for Train Dreams, Oscar Isaac for Frankenstein, Dwayne Johnson for the Smashing Machine, who is unrecognisable if you've seen that film. Michael B. Jordan for Sinners, Wagner Moore for the Secret Agent, and Jeremy Allen White for Springsteen Deliver Me From Nowhere. [00:10:35] Speaker C: Which Michael B. Jordan now does he get to pick up two awards. Yeah, they should give him two. [00:10:44] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, I have seen Jeremy Allen White in Springsby and Deliver Me From Nowhere. It was a great performance. Jeremy Allen White is. Or pretty much most people I'd know from Shameless or the Bear. But yeah, it was a fantastic performance and he pretty much nailed the Springsteen voice, which is tough going, to try and sing that style. So I think he did really well. Dwayne Johnson trying to break out the wearing a khaki shirt with a bald head in the middle of a jungle somewhere stereotype character that he's played for about 25 films, though. Oscar Isaac and Joel Edgerton, always solid actors. I'm surprised Jacob Elordi's not in there for Frankenstein rather than Oscar Isaac. [00:11:26] Speaker D: Probably not. He's not a major role, I think. [00:11:29] Speaker B: Supporting actor, I think. Yeah. [00:11:31] Speaker D: I think Joel Egerton's got a good chance because there's been a lot of good buzz around Train Dreams. [00:11:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:37] Speaker D: Which is an Apple TV film. Apple tv. [00:11:41] Speaker B: I don't know all that much about it. [00:11:43] Speaker D: One of those, I think. [00:11:43] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:11:43] Speaker D: But that's been getting a lot of buzz, so I think that's got. He's got a good chance with that. [00:11:47] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:11:49] Speaker A: Musical biopics, it's not one anywhere else. So I think there's a. There's probably a strong chance. [00:11:54] Speaker D: I think the. The day of the musical biopic has come and gone and everybody's remembered that they gave an Oscar to Remy Malek and they've gone, yeah, that's not a good look. [00:12:04] Speaker A: Yeah. It's moving on to musical or comedy for best female or male Actor, Rose Byrne for if I Had Legs, I'll Kick you, Cynthia Eri for Wicked for Good, Kate Hudson for Song Song Blue Chase Infinity for One Battle After Another. Amanda Seyfried for the Test, Me of Ann Lee and Emma Stone for Begonia. It's going to be Emma Stone in it. [00:12:24] Speaker B: I'm really happy to see Chace Infinity in there because she played Leonardo DiCaprio's daughter in one battle after another. And despite it being like a relatively early point in her career. Yeah, completely held her own opposite these massive, massive Hollywood A Lister names. And, yeah, for me, she was one of the sort of standout performances in that film. That being said, I'd be surprised if she wins it just because she is so young and there's some other big names in there. [00:12:59] Speaker A: I think everybody's over the Wicked hype train as well now. [00:13:02] Speaker B: Yeah. The second film hasn't done as well as the first. And I think if Cynthia Erivo didn't win the awards for this last year than. [00:13:11] Speaker A: Yeah, I think we've all seen more of the off screen antics rather than the actual film this time around. Unfortunately. [00:13:17] Speaker B: Yes. [00:13:19] Speaker A: Best Male Actor, Timothy Chalmat, Chalamet Shalom Chalamel and Ignall Mighty Supreme. George Clooney for J. Kelly, which I saw the trailer for and looks very interesting because it's about act coming to the Twilight. It was great. Who's not as popular anymore? And it's like, is this just you, George? Do you need to act? Leonardo DiCaprio for one battle After Another. Ethan Hawke for Blue Moon, which again, absolutely fantastic. [00:13:46] Speaker B: One of the names I was trying. [00:13:48] Speaker A: To think of earlier, Lee Byung Hun for no Other Choice and then Jesse Plemons for Begonia, who you think might be a Begonia double. [00:14:01] Speaker D: I'd like to see it go to Ethan Hawke. [00:14:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:04] Speaker D: Just, just because, you know, a little bit because of his entire career and stuff. I think George Clooney is just playing George Clooney. So I don't think that's like, that's valid. [00:14:13] Speaker C: Toughest role of his career. [00:14:14] Speaker D: Yeah. I mean, and DiCaprio's got a good chance because it's, it's quite, you know, he's got pretty, it's a good performance. It's kind of slightly off character because he's not playing like you know, the most handsome man in the world. He's a bit of a wreck. [00:14:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:30] Speaker D: So it'd be quite nice. So I think I'd kind of like, you know, I think it's a two way race for me between Caprio and Hawke, really. [00:14:38] Speaker B: I suspect Timothee Chalamet might be in with a shout depending on how well Marty supreme does. Yeah, DiCaprio's broken his no win streak. [00:14:50] Speaker A: Yeah, he's had his award now. Everybody's quiet now. Now you've had your award. [00:14:55] Speaker C: One, one. That's all you get. [00:14:58] Speaker A: So moving on to Best Supporting. So female and male. So we've got Emily Blunt for the Smashing Machine. Elle Fanning for Sentimental Value, Ariana Grande for Wicked For Good, Inga ib's daughter Lilias for Sentimental Value, Amy Madigan for Weapons, Tiana Taylor for One Battle After Another. [00:15:19] Speaker B: It's another strong one. [00:15:21] Speaker D: See, I give it to Amy Madigan for Weapons because that performance was in another film entirely. What was going on in that movie. [00:15:29] Speaker A: The thing with Emily Blunt is she played. This is gonna sound probably ridiculous, but she's played a very similar role in Oppenheimer which is a long suffering wife with a kind of weirdly abusive husband, but in a different kind of way. So it's kind of. It's not that distinct of a role for me. Yeah. [00:15:47] Speaker D: I mean I've not seen enough of these films to make a good choice and I think a supporting actress is always a real tricky one. [00:15:53] Speaker A: Yeah. And I think again, Ariana Grande unfortunately not really going to win this one, I don't think. [00:15:59] Speaker D: Well, you'd say Cynthia can't win the major role given. Given the support into Ariana. That's not good. [00:16:08] Speaker B: I mean it is worth saying as well that both of them do give a fantastic performance in Wicked for good. They are worthy of being on there. But yeah, I think the first Wicked film is more deserving of the awards. [00:16:19] Speaker A: Yeah. And I think it's being a musical kind of hampers it a little bit because the others are very strong dramatic performances which the judges usually favour to a certain extent. And then Best Supported Male. So you've got Benicio Del Toro for One Battle After Another, Jacob Elordi for Frankenstein as you mentioned, Paul Mescal for Hamnet, Sean Penn for One Battle After Another, Adam Sandler for Jake Kelly and Stellan Skarsgard for Sentimental. At least one Skarsgard per year, isn't there? Do you think there's like a mandate? It's got to be either a Colkin or a Skarsgard per annum gets at least one nomination. [00:16:54] Speaker C: It's also kind of funny because like since we're going to be getting onto it, Stellan Stars Guard did actually show up at the Game Awards as well. Yes. [00:17:01] Speaker D: I mean Skarsgrd's got a chance for that because the thing the performance is in that film is what's selling sentimental value. I'd like it to go to Adam Sandler just because like I just want him to win awards. [00:17:15] Speaker A: And I like Scarl's solid. Mescal is always a great actor. We haven't seen Hamlet yet, but I. [00:17:20] Speaker D: Do, I mean I like Del Toro. So yeah, he's just kind of cool and he was great in the Phoenician scheme. [00:17:29] Speaker A: Well, that's the thing. He works best as almost like an overblown cameo character. He works best, like 20 minutes max of Del Toro is all you need for your film. [00:17:39] Speaker D: Which in the best supporting actor role should be like, you know, when he pops up it's like, yeah, that was a good bit. [00:17:44] Speaker A: He's good seasoning. Yeah. He was probably the best thing out of the Last Jedi and the Incident. [00:17:50] Speaker B: Sean Penn Was very like a really awful, horrible baddie in one battle after another, basically just playing. [00:17:57] Speaker A: Doesn't really have to play that well. [00:18:01] Speaker C: Until you said he was playing a baddie, I thought you were just commenting. I'm sure. [00:18:08] Speaker A: So we'll go for cinematic and box office achievement. [00:18:10] Speaker D: So let's rewind a second. What on earth does that mean? [00:18:16] Speaker A: What does cinema, in other words, this is a big film that we have to give some mob to because that's what's currently saving cinema. But it's not a proper film. [00:18:25] Speaker B: Look, here's some films that you actually saw. [00:18:27] Speaker A: Yeah, this is the. It's not a proper worthy film, but we'll give it a nod. The game's great. [00:18:35] Speaker D: It's such a bizarre category. It's like we don't really want to give you an award, but because you bring it in the box office and we'd all be like broke. [00:18:43] Speaker A: If I list the nominees, could you see these getting any other awards? [00:18:46] Speaker D: But there is a couple in there that are going to get. [00:18:47] Speaker A: So we've got Avatar, Fire and ash. We have F1, the Brad Pitt money making vehicle, K Pop Demon Hunters, Mission Impossible, the Final Reckoning, which is the first time we've seen it pop up, which I think Tom Cruise is probably going to be very angry about that. No nominations of Guntoon for best actor so far, Sinners, Weapons, Wicked for good and Zootopia 2. [00:19:10] Speaker B: I think this is the first category where as of next weekend, I will have seen all of them. [00:19:17] Speaker D: Yeah, I reckon it will go to Avatar. [00:19:19] Speaker A: I think it'll go to Caveats because Demon Hunters. [00:19:21] Speaker D: Do you think? I think because it's nominated in other categories, I think this is the category they can go. You weren't good enough to win a proper award. So, yeah, we're going to give it to you in this. [00:19:30] Speaker A: But it's the whole cultural relevance of Avatar. It's just the film appears, it makes lots of money and then. And then evaporates until the next time it's in the cinemas. [00:19:41] Speaker B: It's an interesting one because those two do feel like front runners. But for box office achievement, Avatar hasn't come out yet, so it's hard to say what its box office achievement is going to be. [00:19:52] Speaker C: Oh, it'd be so funny if it flops. [00:19:54] Speaker D: It says it kind of like hedges its bets because it goes cinematic and box office. [00:20:00] Speaker B: K Pop Demon Hunters had a Netflix release first and that was where it had most of its money. Say that. [00:20:06] Speaker D: Not quite cinematic, not quite box office. [00:20:08] Speaker B: It did get a cinema release. Probably mostly because they wanted to get a bit of box office out of it. [00:20:13] Speaker D: And also you have to get it in if you want it to be awards. [00:20:18] Speaker B: Capable. [00:20:19] Speaker A: But I think probably most money earned versus money spent is probably Weapons. [00:20:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:24] Speaker A: Because it was quite a tight budget, low horror film. What was the previous film starts with a B? Barbarian, because that one got a lot of buzz, but it didn't really get that much in the way of nominations. So is this the kind of. Sorry, we've got to give you something for Barbarian. Here's Weapons. [00:20:42] Speaker D: I think this is you. This is your typical blockbuster thing. So I'd say it's Avatar, Mission Impossible or the kind of like big ones for that just to kind of like go, you know, you're getting bums on seats. [00:20:52] Speaker A: It's probably going to be Mission Impossible because it's the last opportunity to give Mission Impossible something, isn't it? Until it gets rebooted in about 10 years time. Yeah. And then best director. So Paul Thomas Anderson, one battle after another. Ryan Coogler for Sinners, Guillermo del Toro for Frankenstein, Jafar Panhal for It Was Just An Accident. Joachim Trier for Sentimental Value or Chloe Zhao for Hamnet. [00:21:16] Speaker B: I think it's going to be Paul Thomas Anderson. [00:21:19] Speaker A: Everybody loves Paul Thomas Anderson. He always brings something unique to every movie, doesn't he? That's, that's, that's the joy of him. [00:21:27] Speaker D: See, I've got a strong suspicion that Hamnet, which isn't a. [00:21:32] Speaker A: Chloe Zara, is. [00:21:33] Speaker D: A bit of a dark web link. I think Hamnet's going to be the film that surprises everybody this year. It's going to do well at all the awards. [00:21:41] Speaker A: Yeah. And Chloe Zowie is a bit of an indie darling, isn't it? [00:21:44] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:21:44] Speaker D: And it's all the kind of like I shoot in natural light type Sting. So as a director. Director, yeah. Although I'd like to see Ryan Coogler get it because there were some stunningly brilliant sequences in Sinners. I mean the whole kind of middle sequence in the, in the, the, the bar. I mean, some people kind of didn't really vibe with that, but I thought that was a great sequence. Just literally it almost stopped the movie. But you kind of went, wow. [00:22:10] Speaker C: Literally did. [00:22:11] Speaker A: You just literally went, jeez. That was the definition of a set piece. [00:22:16] Speaker D: Yeah, it was a great sequence. [00:22:17] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, any love for Guillermo del Toro or do we think he's just his family's niche? We all know he's going to produce a fairly workable good horror film. [00:22:27] Speaker B: I always love Guillermo del Toro. I don't think Frankenstein has gone down well enough to win it this year. [00:22:34] Speaker D: Yeah, it's a bit of a mixed bag. I mean, there's lots I think it'll win in kind of like costume, set design, kind of. That kind of categories, but I don't think it's Del Toro's best work. [00:22:45] Speaker A: Yeah. So I'm gonna skip past Best Screenplay. We'll move on to Best Original Song. [00:22:50] Speaker D: Who cares about the writers? [00:22:52] Speaker A: Well, it's pretty much most the directors, to be fair, because you've got Ryan Coogler, Paul Thomas Anderson and Chloe Zell back again. So it's like, if we're not gonna win for director, we'll probably get more. It's the whole. [00:23:03] Speaker D: Write the theme tune, sing the theme tune. [00:23:05] Speaker A: Y. Yeah, yeah. [00:23:07] Speaker C: As the writer in the room. Don't worry, I'm used to being sidelined. [00:23:12] Speaker D: Yeah, we don't need you. We'll fix it impostly. [00:23:16] Speaker B: It's all good. [00:23:16] Speaker A: The reason I wanted to put up Best Original Song, because we've got a weird double in there for the same person, which doesn't really happen that often. So we got Miley Cyrus, Andrew Wyatt, Mark Ronson, Simon Franglin for Avatar, Fire and Ash. Dreamers one. [00:23:30] Speaker B: Okay. [00:23:31] Speaker C: That's a bunch of stuff that I didn't expect to go to go. [00:23:34] Speaker A: Miley Cyrus and Mark Ronson. [00:23:36] Speaker C: Meh. Like that I understood. And then Avatar crashed in. I was like, excuse me, I'm going. [00:23:43] Speaker A: To absolutely butcher these names. So apologies in advance. Jung Kyung Kwak, Yoo Han Le Hae Dong Ram Jong Hyun, SEO, Park Hongjoon, Kim Yoon Jae or ej Ejae. Yeah, let's go with that. Mark Sonnenvik for K Pop Demon Hunters. Golden, which we all know is going to win. Raphael Sadiq, Ludwig Grandson for Sinners. I lied to you. Ludwig Grandson. We know very much from the stuff. Start with the Star wars bits. Stephen Schwartz, wicked for good. No place like Home. Stephen Schwartz, wicked for good. The Girl in the Bubble. And then Nick Cave, Bryce Dessner for Train Dreams. And Train Dreams. Nice scenic cave. Getting on. [00:24:31] Speaker D: Yeah. It's K Pop Demon Hunters, isn't it? [00:24:35] Speaker B: It's gonna be. [00:24:35] Speaker A: It's the song of 2025. That and then. Yeah. So moving over to the TV side. Let's have a mooch. Sorry, two seconds. [00:24:49] Speaker D: TV. [00:24:50] Speaker A: I'm scrolling. Somebody Phil. Somebody Phil. [00:24:53] Speaker D: They got pictures. [00:24:54] Speaker B: I've got them in front of me if you want me to go. [00:24:56] Speaker A: Yeah, you go. [00:24:57] Speaker B: Okay. Best Drama series. We have the Diplomat, the Pit Pluribus, Severance, Slow Horses and the White Lotus. [00:25:07] Speaker A: So the pit is basically, er, version two. [00:25:10] Speaker D: It's, er, 24. [00:25:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:13] Speaker D: And we've still been. Whatever comes out of this whole Warner Brothers thing, we'll talk about later on. The fact that we have not got the pit yet and they've held it over. They did put it on Sky Atlantic. They were going to hold it over till HBO Max turned up in the uk and now who knows what's going to happen with all of that. [00:25:29] Speaker C: Yes. [00:25:29] Speaker D: And so I want. I really wanted to watch that. [00:25:32] Speaker A: But Apple TV has knocked it out the park with three noms. Pluribus, Severance, Slow Horses, of which I. [00:25:40] Speaker D: Only really like Severance. [00:25:41] Speaker A: You don't like Pluribus? It's Vince Gilligan. [00:25:43] Speaker D: I have. I have very strong opinions about Pluribus because when it comes to this, I am definitely the Carolina. [00:25:51] Speaker A: It's Vince Gilligan. So he's coming off the back of Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul. [00:25:55] Speaker D: See, I didn't like Breaking Bad and I never watched Call. Never Call Saul. [00:26:00] Speaker B: Sorry. [00:26:01] Speaker C: Well, Keith, did you watch the X Files? Because he worked on that too. [00:26:04] Speaker D: I watched the X Files. He only wrote a couple of episodes, but he did write very good episodes of the X Files, so I'll give him that. [00:26:08] Speaker A: Slow Horses is the new Gary Oldman vehicle, apparently. [00:26:14] Speaker B: Five seasons now. [00:26:15] Speaker D: Yeah, five seasons. [00:26:17] Speaker B: And I thoroughly deserves to be on there. I love Slow Horses. [00:26:20] Speaker A: Yeah. The White Lotus I gave up on halfway through series three. [00:26:25] Speaker B: Oh, no, I loved it. [00:26:27] Speaker A: Too slow. See, the Slow Burner series and then there's absolutely nothing happening for four episodes. [00:26:36] Speaker D: I think the third season that they've just done of White Lotus hasn't held up to the previous ones. I don't think it's been as well received just because I don't know whether the format's getting a little bit stale, but I don't really know what they'll go for on this. I imagine because of the buzz, Plural Bus stands a good chance, but that's not for me. [00:26:58] Speaker A: Sorry. Severance is season two. [00:27:00] Speaker D: Severance is too weird. People won't go for that. [00:27:02] Speaker A: And the White Lotus, as you said, it's already one stuff, two years running. [00:27:06] Speaker D: Nobody in the UK knows anything about the Pit, apart from its Noah Wylie. But I'd like to. I want to see that show and then. [00:27:12] Speaker A: Yep. Musical or comedy. So, Sam, do you want to go? [00:27:16] Speaker D: Yep. [00:27:17] Speaker B: So we've got Abbott elementary, the Bear Hacks. Nobody wants this. Only murders in the building and the studio. [00:27:24] Speaker A: So, yeah, the studio. Again, not seen Apple tv. But I've heard it's really good. And yeah, I love Murders in the Building. [00:27:31] Speaker D: That's great. Seeing Steve Martin, Selena Gomez and Martin. [00:27:34] Speaker A: Shorts Season 5 is it. [00:27:37] Speaker D: It's just so much fun. It'll be the studio, I think. [00:27:40] Speaker A: I mean, Abbott elementary is good. The Bear is still quality tv. Regardless. Abbott elementary is a great standard comedy. [00:27:48] Speaker D: I'm such a trash TV watcher. I'm not a big fan of the Bear either. I think if it's kind of elevated tv, I'm like, yeah, I just like. [00:27:56] Speaker C: Well, if it makes you feel better, Keith, I don't. I just don't do tv. [00:28:00] Speaker A: I just love how the Bear is in the comedy because I try to avoid several and drama. So they stuck themselves in the comedy character and now they're completely stuck in this comedy category and they're not a comedy. [00:28:14] Speaker D: I've seen Nobody Wants this listed in lots of people's worst TV of the year categories in the last couple of weeks. [00:28:20] Speaker A: So it might win them. [00:28:21] Speaker D: So clearly, I mean, Hacks, clearly nobody wants this. I think Hacks has got a. [00:28:26] Speaker A: You know, every single reviewer was just. [00:28:28] Speaker C: Like, oh, we've got a title for this. [00:28:30] Speaker D: I mean, Gene Smart does good job in Hacks Abbott. [00:28:34] Speaker A: I don't know how much longer it's going to run. So it does feel like it might get an odd. [00:28:38] Speaker D: I don't think, I think, I don't think it's the strongest manner in that list. [00:28:43] Speaker A: So limited series, anthology series or motion picture made for television. They're adding more stuff to this every. [00:28:49] Speaker D: Single year, at least just not a televisual experience. [00:28:53] Speaker A: So we all know what's going to win, but we'll go for the list anyway. [00:28:56] Speaker B: So, Sam, so we've got Adolescence, All Her Fault, the Beast in Me, Black Mirror, Dying for Sex, and the Girlfriend. [00:29:05] Speaker A: So Adolescents. Yeah. [00:29:06] Speaker B: All agree. [00:29:07] Speaker A: There we go. [00:29:08] Speaker B: We will. [00:29:09] Speaker C: I don't even watch tv and even I'm like, it's. [00:29:11] Speaker D: I didn't even watch that. [00:29:13] Speaker B: I only watched it quite recently. But it's a powerful thing. [00:29:17] Speaker D: Say that I've not watched Black Mirror either. [00:29:19] Speaker A: So, yeah, best performance by a female actor in a television series slash drama. [00:29:24] Speaker B: So we've got Kathy Bates for Matlock, Brit Lower for Severance, Helen Mirren for Mobland, Bella Ramsey for the Last of Us, Kerry Russell for the Diplomat and Rhea Seehorn for Pluribus. [00:29:35] Speaker C: Oh, God, if Bella Ramsey wins that, it's going to cause such a hell day online. [00:29:40] Speaker D: I think it's a two horse race there. [00:29:42] Speaker A: Helen Mirren. [00:29:44] Speaker D: No, I'D have said it was Brit Lauer and Richit's Sihorn. [00:29:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:48] Speaker A: Surprising. [00:29:49] Speaker D: I think those two. [00:29:50] Speaker A: Kerry Russell is the lead for the Diplomat, though, so she's probably. [00:29:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:56] Speaker D: Who knows? [00:29:58] Speaker A: Okay. Best performance by a male actor. The Simonian hero who I would like to win. Who is not going to win. But we'll go through the list. [00:30:06] Speaker B: Sterling K. Brown for Paradise, Diego Luna for Andor, Gary Oldman for Slow Horses, Mark Ruffalo for Task, Adam Scott for Severance and Noah Weil for the Pit. I'm guessing it's Diego Luna that you've. [00:30:18] Speaker A: Diego Luna should win this award because Andor is an amazing series. And if you don't like Star wars, go and watch Andor. [00:30:25] Speaker B: If you like Star wars, do go and watch Andor as well, if you haven't already. [00:30:28] Speaker D: Has everybody forgotten that Andor was out this year? Because I've seen a lot of kind of end of year lists of the best TV and it's not in him. [00:30:33] Speaker A: I think it's in a lot because it was so early. People have just forgotten that it was. Because it was the Christmas New Year period, wasn't it? [00:30:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:40] Speaker A: So always that it falls into that void hole, unfortunately. I mean, Adam Scott for Severance is probably going to be a pick. Gary Oldman for Slow Horses because he is the vehicle for that entire series. [00:30:50] Speaker D: The Pit was a big hit. I think Noah Wylie's got a good chance. [00:30:54] Speaker A: He's got enough of those from er. It's the same role. [00:30:57] Speaker D: Although I did like Sterling K. Brown. [00:31:00] Speaker A: I kind of like Sterling K. Brown. So move on to musical or comedy for Female Actress. [00:31:06] Speaker B: So we've got Kristen Bell for Nobody Wants this, Ayo Adebiri for the Bear, Selena Gomez for Only Murders in the Building, Natasha Lyonne for Poker Face, Jenna Ortega for Wednesday and Jean Smart for Hacks. [00:31:18] Speaker D: Please give it to Natasha Leone as a way of going. We can just show. But here's an award. [00:31:24] Speaker B: The weird thing with that is they've canned the show, but she and the showrunner have been talking about bringing it back, but with they're hoping for a. [00:31:33] Speaker D: Different name and a different lead character. [00:31:35] Speaker B: No, the same lead character. [00:31:37] Speaker D: Oh. [00:31:38] Speaker B: Like same concept, same name. [00:31:41] Speaker A: Just slightly different enough that it just gets Rian Johnson. [00:31:44] Speaker B: Peter Dinklage is the name that they're the new Toxic Avenger. Great. [00:31:52] Speaker A: Again, Selena Gomez Only Murders. I would like also to go to her. She's great. Jenna Ortega. Wednesday is just a cultural phenomenon that's kind of revived the entire Addams Family. Ayer Edda Berry always Does good in the Bear. I know it's not your particular cup of tea, Keith, but she's fantastic in it and I think she is one of the highlights of the series. [00:32:13] Speaker D: I think Gene Smart would be a solid bet because I think Hacks is a really kind of well received show. [00:32:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:21] Speaker A: And then we'll kind of wrap up pretty quickly with best performance by a female actor in a limited series, anthology series or motion picture made for television. And best performance by a male actor in a television series, musical or comedy, limited anthology. Do you want to go for those or do you want me to? [00:32:44] Speaker B: So we've got Claire Daines for the Beast in Me, Rashida Jones for Black Mirror, Amanda Seyfried for Long Bright River, Sarah Snook for All Her Fault, Michelle Williams for Dying for Sex, and Robin Wright for the Girlfriend. [00:32:57] Speaker A: All pretty strong cast. [00:32:59] Speaker B: I think the only one I've seen is Black Mirror. [00:33:01] Speaker A: Yeah, Rashida Jones is great in that. Yeah. [00:33:05] Speaker D: I think Michelle Williams, the Dying for Sex show was a pretty decent show and it's quite a decent performance from her. It's quite, quite a good. So, yeah, those kind of categories. It's all a bit of. Kind of like everybody's really good. [00:33:21] Speaker A: Yeah. And then best performance by a male actor in TV series, musical or comedy. [00:33:26] Speaker B: So we've got Adam Brody for Nobody Wants this, Steve Martin for Only Murders in the Building, Glen Powell for Chad Powers, Seth Rogen for the Studio, Martin short for Only Murders, and Jeremy Alan White for the Bear. [00:33:39] Speaker A: So it's going to go to either Martin or Steve, I think. [00:33:41] Speaker D: No, it's going to go to Seth Rogen because if it goes to Martin Shaw or Steve Martin, they're just going to scrap over like, so I was better than you in this show, but that's just me. [00:33:51] Speaker A: But then that just gives us material for season six because you know, they're just going to bicker for the entire. [00:33:55] Speaker D: They're coming to London for season six, which is the best thing. It'll go to Rogan, the studio. Everybody loved the studio. But maybe do give it to Martin short just to go. Yeah, he's better than you, Steve. [00:34:06] Speaker A: Sorry, yeah, we'll skip over supporting. So best performance by male actor in a limited series, anthology series or a motion picture made for television. [00:34:14] Speaker B: So we have Jacob Elordi for the Narrow Road to the Deep North, Paul Giamatti for Black Mirror, Stephen Graham for Adolescence, Charlie Hunnam for Monster, the Ed Gaines Story, Jude Law for Black Rabbit, and Matthew Reese for the Beast in Me. [00:34:27] Speaker A: Is that Stephen Graham? Graham Stephen Graham for playing an angry Scouseman. [00:34:33] Speaker D: You won a load of awards in the BAFTAs like ages ago. So round off your year. [00:34:38] Speaker B: He's more of an upset Scouseman in this than, to be fair, still angry at certain points. [00:34:43] Speaker A: Yes, he was great. Also in the Bruce Riggington documentary where he plays dad angry, not Scalesman. But yeah, we'll wrap it up there for this bit and then we'll come back with Game Awards shortly. Geoff Keighley graced the Internet with his presence again to bring us his latest round of sponsored content and occasional awards and some trailers. So it was the Game Awards. I think we all know who Angely won. I mean there are a few other winners which we all could touch over. But do you want to go for the awards first or do you want to go for the trailers first? [00:35:21] Speaker C: I'm going to go through the awards because it's pretty straightforward. I wonder why, because you may have noticed this year that there is a game that was released from a new French studio called Sunfall Interactive who are so new they don't even have a Wikipedia page. It's a black. It's just black on Wikipedia. And yeah, it has basically swept everything. It has won Game of the Year, Best Game Direction, Best Narrative, Best Art Direction, Best Score and Music, Best Performance for Jennifer English as my El. Best Independent Game and Best Debut Indie Game, which those two are controversial. We'll talk about that in a second, I think. And Best rpg. The only two categories it was nominated for that it did not win were Best Audio Design, which went to Battlefield 6. But to be fair, having played the game, I'll say that the audio isn't necessarily anything to really write home about in Expedition 33. And like although the irony I've read is that a lot of people were saying that Battlefield 6 apparently has a patch that has ruined the audio design which sounds like. And then players voice was the other one it lost, which it lost to Wuthering Waves, a gacha game that came out last year and the only reason it won that is because with these gacha companies they really like to bribe their players to vote for these awards. [00:36:51] Speaker A: So it's going to be that old. [00:36:53] Speaker C: Genshin or Genshin was in there and that was also notorious for doing that. [00:36:58] Speaker A: I mean score soundtrack, the Claire Obscura soundtrack, if you haven't heard it, is one of the greatest video game soundtracks. [00:37:06] Speaker C: There was something interesting about that that I read was just actually just this morning when I watched it was a video about. About the Squirtle and basically talking about how the composer. Instead of just writing for the instruments like a composer generally would, I'm going to write, you know, like, this is a cello part. This is this. He wrote songs and then arranged them and that's how he did the score. And I think that's what's made it so strong, because everything has got like a strong melody and everything, you know, it's. And then it has been arranged for that purpose. [00:37:40] Speaker A: Yeah. So Charlie Cox commented when the game first came out about doing the. His voice acting because he feels like he's a bit of a fraud. Because he said he basically just went into a sound booth for less than a week, recorded all the time. [00:37:54] Speaker C: He did one session, I believe, and he did the, like, the whole game in that one session. And so. And because he doesn't really play games, he hasn't really engaged with it. And so everyone's asking him loads of questions about it. It's just like. I don't know, it's just one day's work, but it's kind of. [00:38:09] Speaker A: His performance is quite emotional in it when you listen to it. It's like the game. It's amazing. It just like. He's just like. [00:38:16] Speaker C: Yeah, because he. What? Because he was nominated for best performance Performance. He was one of the six nominees for that category. Three of them were Expedition 33, because there was him as Gustav and then there was Ben Star as Verso, as well as Jennifer English as my L, who won. Honestly, one comment I've seen on this, and I definitely agree with this, is it shouldn't have been Charlie Cox who was nominated. It should have been Andy Serkis. [00:38:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:42] Speaker C: Because he plays like, you know, the main villain, main antagonist of it, and he is just a presence the whole time. And, you know, that's definitely. It's kind of funny that it's like one of the few voice roles he's done in video games where he hasn't done the mocap as well. [00:38:59] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, why do we think it's such a success? I've seen so many memes about Ubisoft. Like the Homelander just sat watching the audience with a grumpy face, like, just watching Claire Obscure win everything. Because these are just a bunch of ex Ubisoft devs, which is probably your point around. Are they indie or not? [00:39:17] Speaker C: So, yeah. So the thing about. So the studio is interesting because, yes, the director is actually Ubisoft, but I think two thirds of the core team are actually relatively new developers. So they're actually like, you know, fairly New to the industry. Especially like the composer. It's his first game credit. They found him on Soundcloud and just thought oh he did some good work, let's hire him. But I think part of it is this. We're seeing a lot of a shift in the games industry at the moment of like big companies are putting out worse games at higher prices and this is like made by a smaller team. It's high quality and it's, it's just like. [00:40:03] Speaker A: I think it's the same thing we're seeing in cinema as well. It's the constant sequels of stuff. [00:40:08] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:40:08] Speaker A: And I think it just have an original title and leave it there. If it's successful it's got to have about 30 different follow ups and spin. [00:40:16] Speaker C: Offs because like it is, it is my game of the year. Like I really, I really like. You know obviously you said the score was great but I think just the art direction is superb as well. It's got like, you know, it's very sort of art nouveau inspired. [00:40:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:40:32] Speaker C: And it's got like just these weird, weird landscapes. Stuff like, just like the starting area is basically Paris, but what if we twisted it? [00:40:40] Speaker A: Yeah. I think it's one of the most beautiful opening acts of any game as well because it just completely sets the. [00:40:45] Speaker C: Tone for the rest of the game story wise. It's great. Like just the premise is intriguing to begin with but it really goes into some interesting places with it. You know, it swerves into Act 3, which has been. Some people have liked where it went and some people hated it. I'm very much in the favor of. I really liked what it did there and just obviously the performances are great, the gameplay has some really interesting ideas going on. It's. It's taken all of these RPG elements and I think one of the problems I've seen online though is that people seem to be saying, oh it's this really innovative thing that's pushing the JRPG forward. [00:41:24] Speaker A: But I'm like, no, it's an F rpg. [00:41:26] Speaker C: But my, my opinion on it is that it basically took lot of really good stuff from other JRPGs. This is a team that you can tell, really love the genre and just wanted to make something. They've taken bits from like everywhere, put it into one system and that's all it is. There's nothing particularly innovative about it. It's just. It's one of those games that takes a lot of really good ideas that have existed elsewhere, combines them in a way that just make. Just works as a collective whole and Then tied it to a cultural identity you don't really see in the genre because the team's French and they decided if These types of RPGs are normally Japanese, well, we're going to go hard on it being French. [00:42:06] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, I feel kind of sorry. [00:42:09] Speaker C: For the Silk song, guys. [00:42:10] Speaker A: It's like they finally released it after so long, so much anticipation. And it was pretty much about as nominated as well as Claire obscured. Not one. Pretty much anything because Claire Obscure is just dominated so much. [00:42:23] Speaker C: Silksong did win best action adventure game. [00:42:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:28] Speaker C: Because it didn't have competition from Expedition 33. What does it actually have? It had competition From Death Stranding 2, Ghost of Yotei, Indiana Jones and Split Fiction. In fact, Indiana Jones, I think that was like that. And best performance were the only awards it was nominated for because similar to like you're talking about with the Golden Globes and things releasing at a certain point of the year, because Indiana Jones released last December, I think everybody's forgotten about it. I mean, that's. [00:42:57] Speaker A: I mean, I hate this award as well. Anticipated game, which of course it's going to be Grand Theft Auto 6, second. [00:43:04] Speaker C: Year in a row. [00:43:04] Speaker A: Been like anticipated game forever. [00:43:07] Speaker C: So, yeah, I don't really care much about the anticipated game, honestly, because it's just like, all right, it seems a. [00:43:15] Speaker D: Nonsense category to vote for something that you've never played and giving it an award. It's like, I don't. It just seems a nonsense category. [00:43:24] Speaker B: It's like if it fails completely when it does come out, it would have won a load of awards. [00:43:29] Speaker C: Yeah. It's like. [00:43:29] Speaker D: It's like going, oh, I want you to vote for your most anticipated cash reward. You've got a pound, twenty pound, a thousand pounds or a million. Which one are you most excited? Oh, I'm going to go for that one. It just seems like an absolute nonsense category. [00:43:43] Speaker A: I'm Surprised Counter Strikes 2 was an Esports game because that just keeps soldering on in the background forever. [00:43:49] Speaker C: I mean, esports is like kind of the forgotten category that no one ever really pays much attention to. I love. I did read like, oh, best esports athlete has gone to Chovy. And I'm like, okay. [00:44:04] Speaker D: I think for a certain part of the audience, that's a deal. I mean, there were two categories that I voted, not the winners, which was multiplayer and adaptation. [00:44:15] Speaker A: So I don't know what you. Yeah. As I say, multiplayer arc Raiders has pretty much just come out the gate. [00:44:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:44:20] Speaker A: Barnstorming. I think it seems to be something that's actually been crafted with some care and again it's not a sequel or touch attached to another franchise. [00:44:28] Speaker D: But then Lee hooked me up with Split Fiction in the earlier part of the year and that's what I voted for. Yeah, there was something about that game as a multiplayer game I just thought was a little bit more kind of old school. [00:44:40] Speaker C: But the thing with Best, we see. [00:44:42] Speaker A: That as a multiplayer game though. That's the problem. [00:44:45] Speaker C: But the thing about Best multiplayer is I think all of them like really could have stood a chance of winning because like you said, our graders came out and just like took everything by storm. But so did Battlefield 6 has been doing really well. Peak was definitely a game that sort of was propelled almost entirely by streaming and that took off in a big way. And Elden Ring Night Reign obviously got a lot of attention. [00:45:11] Speaker D: I was surprised that Helldivers didn't end up in that category had it been available made available to Xbox 20. [00:45:17] Speaker C: It didn't come out this year though. [00:45:18] Speaker A: Came out last year. [00:45:19] Speaker D: Does it coming to Xbox? [00:45:21] Speaker C: No, but no. Okay. It's initial release it could go for. [00:45:29] Speaker A: Ongoing game, but that was. Which to be honest is such a different game from launch. It and Cyberpunk have like transformed so much over the years. But as you said, Best Adaptation, Last of US Season 2, I was quite surprised. [00:45:45] Speaker C: Well, the thing about Best Adaptation is this year it's not great. Honestly. Like all of the. All of the nominees are kind of not well received and it feels like we just kind of shoved whatever came out in here because we didn't really have anything better. What's surprising is they didn't put Sonic 3 in there because Sonic 3 released last December and therefore was eligible. Yeah. [00:46:07] Speaker A: And I think the biggest it would. [00:46:09] Speaker C: Have and it's also reviewed better and you know, because Last of Us Season 2, I think Last of Us Season 2 is probably the best of the bunch in terms of just because again, it's the HBO prestige thing. Even if like there's been mixed reactions to season two. But when it's up against the Minecraft movie, the Devil May Cry animated series, which is basically like the two things I heard about that were we decided that we're gonna put the most like mid 2000s soundtrack on it for absolutely no reason. And also the director put a self insert character of himself in Are Evanescence still working? Evanescence played the Game Awards. They did a performance at the Game Awards and I'm just like what is the point of this Keely? Anyway, the other thing that was nominated was Until dawn the feature film that had absolutely nothing to do with until dawn, the game, apart from the name and Splinter Cell, Death Watch, which I didn't even know existed, did. Yeah. [00:47:13] Speaker A: I mean, surprised Minecraft movie we didn't get all of because again, it was one of those weird cultural little blips when it came out. Everybody with the chicken jockey and the Jack Black songs of annoyance. [00:47:25] Speaker B: Was that because it was a Minecraft movie and it was all the Minecraft game fans who were pouring out to see it rather than because Minecraft's been. [00:47:33] Speaker A: Out, what, in over a decade now? So 2011. Yeah, so you got quite a few generations. [00:47:40] Speaker C: But yeah, to sort of run through the remaining winners. We've got games for Impact, which was south of Midnight, which is a game I do want to play. It does look great, especially with its animation style. We've got. Best mobile game was Horse Girls, Uma Musume, Pretty Derby, which out of those ones was absolutely the one that was going to win because that has been a cultural phenomenon because. Because people really love them. Anime horse Girls for some reason. Best VR game went to the Midnight Walk, which is another game that has a really cool stop motion art style. I think that's well deserved. Best action game was Hades 2, to absolutely no one's surprise. Best fighting game, which. Another category which wasn't great this year was Winter Fate or City of the Wolves, which itself is very controversial because. Because of Saudi funding and the inclusion of Ronaldo as a playable character. But considering that the other games in that category include a remaster, two retro collections and a game that isn't even finished, it kind of had to go to Fatal Fury. [00:48:47] Speaker D: I voted for Mortal Kombat in that category. [00:48:50] Speaker A: It's not finished yet. [00:48:52] Speaker C: That one's finished. [00:48:53] Speaker B: That was the collection. [00:48:53] Speaker C: That's the retro collection. It's 2xko. That's not fair. Best family game was Donkey Kong Bonanza. I hate saying that one because it only works in an American accent. Don't say banana. Best sim and strategy went to Final Fantasy Tactics, a game from 1997. I mean, Final Fantasy Tactics is supposed to be good, but like sim strategy every year is like a disappointment for anyone who's into sim and strategy. Because the main things I saw was like, where the hell is Europa Universalis 5? Because that's the one. That's the one everybody plays raving about at the moment. Sports and racing went unsurprisingly to Mario Kart World. And then we have innovation in accessibility, which went to the Dark Ages. And one problem I have with that category is that they don't explain what its innovation in accessibility actually is. So I don't really know what Doom did. Yeah. [00:49:52] Speaker A: But one year they gave to the Xbox Control region. [00:49:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:49:55] Speaker A: I mean, like, which actually had a kind of. This is great accessibility. [00:49:59] Speaker C: I think Xbox have been pretty good on accessibility features. So it's not really surprising that something under their umbrella did win this. So. But I would like to know what it was, you know. Yeah. [00:50:11] Speaker A: So that's what won't Any game on Divinity was the big trailer. And there was the big bait and switch with everybody expecting a Half Life 3 trailer and it turning out to be Mega Man. [00:50:26] Speaker C: People need to stop expecting Half Life 3 ever, because it's not gonna happen. And I think everyone needs to just, like, accept that and move on with their lives at this point, because then also if it does get announced, then you can be surprised by it rather than disappointed and angry at Mega man because he's done nothing wr. [00:50:44] Speaker A: If they're gonna release it, they're gonna release it at the same time as they release the new Steam machine. It's gonna be an instant seller. [00:50:50] Speaker D: Just say it's coming and it can then win the most anticipated game for the next three or four years. [00:50:56] Speaker C: Yeah. Like sort of running through, like, the trailer announcements. [00:50:59] Speaker A: Yeah. So we go Divinity, because that was kind of a bit of a gory trailer. [00:51:04] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:51:04] Speaker A: I haven't watched the Family Safe show. [00:51:07] Speaker C: Because I will say that my experience of watching the actual. Well, I didn't watch the actual ceremony. I watched. I followed a live blog and it was happening the games Radar 1, because it was the most sarcastic. So someone else got to torture themselves by watching Geoff Keighley for my benefit. [00:51:24] Speaker A: He didn't even turn off the first half hour of his own show. There was a pre show before his actual show. [00:51:28] Speaker C: That's a thing that happens every year. He does the pre show where about half the awards get announced and then they show a bunch of trailers like this. This is the show, Jeff. It's just that you're just taking a half hour break before it starts. [00:51:42] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, so Divinity 3, I think. [00:51:45] Speaker C: It'S just called Divinity, I believe. [00:51:47] Speaker A: Yeah. But it's Larian Studios, Baldur's Gate 3. Everybody loves them. [00:51:51] Speaker C: And also, it'd be very weird if they called it Divinity 3, considering there's like, so many of them at this point. [00:51:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:56] Speaker C: It's been around since 2000. It really surprises me how long that series has been going. [00:52:01] Speaker A: It's their big other franchise that everybody forgets. Exists. [00:52:04] Speaker C: Yeah. Because I know the only ones I'd really known about was the original sin 1 and 2. But yes, some of the other things that we had. Yeah. [00:52:16] Speaker A: All I'd say is if you are going to go and watch that trailer, just brace yourself. It's not as pleasant as one would be. [00:52:23] Speaker C: So some stuff that stood out to me. There's a game called Bradley the Badger which is basically what if we took a 3D platformer mascot and put him into. Every other game Starts with him like being dropped into bloodborne and then figuring out how to navigate that. And it's just like, okay, I need to know what this game is. We have Stupid Never Dies, which is basically a weird horror game about like a couple. That's like a human and a zombie and there's like pop punk in the trailer and it's got a very bold art style and I don't know what's going on with that either. Star Fate of the Old Republic, which is from Casey Hudson and his new studio, who is the director of Knights of the Old Republic, the original. [00:53:07] Speaker A: One of the founders of. Well, not one of the founders, but one of the key people at bioware back in the day. Mass Effect trilogy. [00:53:16] Speaker C: That game's not coming out for years though. The studio has just been formed. They're not coming. That game's not coming out. [00:53:20] Speaker A: So we've got Star Wars Eclipse to look out for first if that ever comes. And there's galactic races as well. [00:53:26] Speaker C: Yes. [00:53:27] Speaker D: Yeah, that looks like it will come out. [00:53:29] Speaker A: The return of Pod Racing. Post Empire Pod Racing. [00:53:34] Speaker C: We have Covent of the Chicken Foot, which is the new game from Bruce Straley, formerly of Naughty Dog. So he was one of the co directors of the Last of Us, the first one. But he left because he was just kind of. Kind of feeling creatively stagnant and wanted to do something new. And he is doing something very new where you play as like a little old lady being followed around by a monster. And I'm not quite sure what's going on in it, but it looks very interesting. The art style is really good. [00:54:03] Speaker A: It'll look quite cute. [00:54:04] Speaker D: Sounds good. Looking forward to the HBO Live action. [00:54:06] Speaker A: Remake starring Helen Mirren. [00:54:10] Speaker C: There is Ontos, which is the new game from Frictional. Who the devs are Amnesia and Soma. And that's another sort of looks like a. That's the game that's got Stellan Skarsgard in it. [00:54:20] Speaker B: Yep. [00:54:22] Speaker C: We have the new game from Jonathan Blow, but no one should be paying him any money. [00:54:27] Speaker A: So swiftly on from that there was a sheep herding game I spotted. [00:54:32] Speaker C: There is. [00:54:33] Speaker A: That looked very interesting from the trailer. I liked the sheep herding game. [00:54:37] Speaker C: Yes. The Free shepherd is what it's called. That's in 2027. Screamer, which is an anime racing game. I actually quite like the look of that one. Yeah. [00:54:45] Speaker A: It was given very much redline vibes. Tickled my interest quite a long. [00:54:49] Speaker C: We have Gang of Dragon, which is the creator of Yakuza, decided I'm gonna leave SEGA and I'm gonna make my own games that are completely different. And he's revealed his new game which is a crime drama set in Japan. [00:55:05] Speaker A: Korean lead. [00:55:06] Speaker C: Exactly. The key difference is that the lead is Korean. And that's it. We had the Street Fighter movie trailer which looks very campy and very fun. [00:55:17] Speaker A: Not a Street Fighter. [00:55:18] Speaker C: It's so nice to be. [00:55:19] Speaker D: It was like, yeah, I'm on board. [00:55:22] Speaker A: I like the cast of that. And David DeMarchian as M. Bison is certainly a pick. [00:55:28] Speaker C: I have no idea what the story of this new Street Fighter movie is from the trailer. Does he need one? Yeah, because it literally is just here's a bunch of fights that are happening and I'm like. To be fair, that's kind of what you're here for, really. [00:55:42] Speaker A: It'd be nice not to go through Ryu as a grumpy man and going for revenge. [00:55:47] Speaker D: And I just. I loved it when I saw the poster that 50 Cent was going to be Balrog. [00:55:52] Speaker B: Great. [00:55:53] Speaker D: This is fantastic. [00:55:54] Speaker C: That cast is bizarre. And then we have like there are two sort of interesting looking co op games that were announced. There's Orbitals, which is like what if split fiction was an 80s anime that's exclusive to the Switch 2 though, which annoys me slightly. And there's out of Words, which is basically like stop motion puppets. And it's another sort of co op adventure thing. They both look really interesting. A trailer featuring Lenny Kravitz, who's appearing in the 007 first light when that comes out next year. [00:56:26] Speaker A: I watched the demo for that and that looked quite interesting. [00:56:30] Speaker D: They did like a reasonably interesting. [00:56:34] Speaker A: He's not actually using one of the licensed Bond actors for a change, which looks nice. For a change. [00:56:39] Speaker C: We have Ace Combat 8 out of nowhere. Like you said, the Mega man announcement. The show closed on a trailer that has disappointed everyone. Which is High Guard, which someone pointed out is literally just a synonym for Overwatch. That's basically what it is. It's a fantasy Overwatch. And then we have the two announcements that got me very Excited, which is the new control has been announced where you're playing as Jesse's brother and it's Devil May Cry now for some reason and I don't know what's going on but I trust Sam Lake implicitly. And then of course the most exciting thing is that Lara Croft is back properly. It's a remake of two new games. We have, like I said, Legacy of Atlantis, which is a second remake of Tomb Raider 1 after Tomb Raider Anniversary in 2007. And so this is like going to be set immediately after like the Survivor games. So they're sort of connecting that to the classic Lara sort of style. And that'll be followed in 2027 with Tomb Raider Catalyst, which is going to be a brand new adventure with an older Lara. And I'm very glad to see that they're like letting her just be kind of cocky and wielding the moan pawn. [00:57:59] Speaker A: As the Survivor Series was. [00:58:00] Speaker D: I did watch that trailer and I was very pleased to see dual wield. Just the way the pose was as well. It was like, yeah, that looks good. [00:58:08] Speaker A: Back to classic Byron. [00:58:09] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:58:09] Speaker A: I mean Fotor is quite interesting to me, especially with who they've got behind it. Knights of the Old Republic is one of my all time favorite games. Two is better but you need the restored content in order for it to work. I think a lot of people got burned by that when that got remastered and re released and there was, oh yeah, we're bringing all the restored content and then it was just legal nightmare to try and get the restored content mod in and then they just gave up halfway through it and then it's like, yeah, we're not doing it now, but it is worth doing if you have the PC version. Go and do the restored content model. [00:58:47] Speaker D: I think the problem with that game is the same problem as it is with the Star wars films. You can announce as many as you like, but I don't believe it until it's actually out because it's like galactic. [00:58:58] Speaker A: Racers will be out. That's a definite one. And again I think they're trading on that pod racer nostalgia. Not 26th anniversary of episode one now. [00:59:07] Speaker C: So I want to see how many articles about it have the subheading. This is pod racing. [00:59:13] Speaker D: It's not really pod racing though because it's like souped up land speeders and stuff. [00:59:17] Speaker A: Well, I think it's a mix of all vehicles but it's trying to recapture that kind of Episode one race. [00:59:22] Speaker D: Although I did quite like it ended with the kind of like, let's Bring back Sebulba. But he's old. [00:59:27] Speaker B: Yeah, that's cool. [00:59:29] Speaker A: I think there was an interesting mix of stuff. As I said, the Game Awards, it's puffery, isn't it? It's all, let's make everything big and everything. And it's not really about the games themselves. [00:59:43] Speaker C: If you want, like, good award shows, you've got GDC, DICE and the BAFTAs in the new year, which all tend to be a bit more focused on. [00:59:52] Speaker A: Actual quality and talent rather than just hyp. Remember a concept many years ago called cable, which is you had a box, you paid a monthly subscription fee and lots of different TV channels came in through said box into your house. There was also a satellite version of it many, many years ago, where you just have to buy one service and all your TV came. Anyone remember that? Feels like a distant memory. I know. Do you remember a concept called Netflix back in the day where you'd pay some money and somebody would send you. [01:00:34] Speaker D: A DVD for the post and then. [01:00:36] Speaker A: They set up a streaming service and all the content was on said streaming service and you paid one monthly fee and then you got access to all the content and then every single other studio went, I'm taking my ball home now, and set up their own rival Stream service. And now you have several different streaming services all asking for money each month for gated content made worse in the. [01:01:01] Speaker D: UK through licensing and rights issues. [01:01:03] Speaker A: Yes. So now it's going even worse because we're now going back to the cable model of one or two streaming services owning everything. That's back to the old Tele west broadband, I think it was around here, versus sky back in the day, if you remember those days back in school. But yes. So Warner Brothers Discovery has put itself up for sale. This is after it's ruined itself over multiple years with terrible mismanagement, destroying their animated catalog, focusing on low quality trash tv. [01:01:34] Speaker C: Shelving finished films. [01:01:35] Speaker A: Yep, shelving finished films. Just general kind of chaos. So they put themselves up for sale and a broad range of options is what they've asked for to be bidded on. And that was on October. Since then, we've got two major competitors. One is Netflix and one is Paramount. [01:01:58] Speaker D: In the bidding, wasn't it almost like it was a done deal? [01:02:01] Speaker A: Pretty much, yes. [01:02:03] Speaker D: And then Paramount just went, yes. [01:02:05] Speaker A: So basically Netflix emerged victorious in the bidding war. I think it was $27.75 per share, which gives $72 billion value to Warner Brother Discovery. And then Paramount went, actually, no, we'd like to buy you. And they Put in a hostile takeover bid. Paramount, which is itself only worth $16 billion, wants to buy and spend even more money. But it's owned by David Ellison. I think he's the current director of Paramount. His dad, Larry Ellison is the second richest man in the world. And it's him plus the Saudis, plus Jared Kushner's firm, who's Donald Trump's son in law. They're all doing a rival bid to try and buy Paramount and they're backing the cash. Sorry, they're backing the cash for Paramount to buy Warner Bros. Discovery. And they're going for $30 per share, which is $108.4 billion to me. Is it even worth $108.4 billion for the licenses and titles that they have? Is it even worth $82.7 billion for the licenses and titles that they have? It's just chaos. [01:03:17] Speaker C: I'll buy the Looney Tunes for a tenner. [01:03:20] Speaker A: Well, the thing is it's all structured on debt. So whoever wins, consumers lose because it's just going to be jacked up prices. If any of the franchises you actually like on Warner Brothers Discovery, all it does is mean that then they're going to try and charge more to pay that money back because it's just going to be debt, finance, loaning. [01:03:39] Speaker D: It's a whole weird situation because it's only certain parts of Warner Brothers. So the whole sports side of it is going to be a completely different side. But it's like, well, no. [01:03:49] Speaker A: So Paramount are asking for everything. Oh, okay. So Paramount are asking for the full acquisition whereas Netflix are asking for a partial spin off which is called Global Linear Networks, which is the non sporty stuff. [01:04:03] Speaker D: Nobody's winning here apart from billionaires because as I mentioned earlier, I'm waiting for the Pit to appear in the UK and that's because we're waiting for hbo. So Warner Brothers and HBO started not licensing their new product to sky, which is where most of their product used to go. Luckily, because of previous deals, we got Peacemaker Season 2. But anything new that they were holding back so they could launch it with something big? [01:04:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:04:31] Speaker D: So I was thinking, well, if Netflix buys that, does that mean HBO is not going to be launched in the UK and that content will go on Netflix, which will boast a Netflix, because Netflix at the moment is my most expensive subscription service and the one I watch the least because there's not an awful lot of good content on there. So I was thinking, great, all my HBO shows, well, one show in like 10, it's like, I could buy the DVDs of Stranger Things cheaper. [01:04:57] Speaker A: The problem with Netflix has been for years is they have little faith in most of their original series. The only one that's actually stuck around is probably Stranger Things. They'll put stuff out. [01:05:06] Speaker D: Or Emily in Paris. [01:05:07] Speaker A: Yeah, they'll put stuff out. They'll make an amazing couple of seasons and it will start to get buzz and it'll start getting to high and start to get raised and then they'll cancel it. Yeah, I mean Scavengers Reign, which was on hbo. [01:05:20] Speaker D: It was on hbo, yeah. [01:05:21] Speaker A: Netflix had a great buzz. We really liked it. Gone. No, not doing any more of that. You get your one series you done. [01:05:27] Speaker C: There's a similar thing going on with like their investment in games where basically they sort of went all in on it. [01:05:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:33] Speaker C: And now they're basically starting to sell off all the studios they bought up. [01:05:37] Speaker A: Because they bought a load of mobile gaming studios, didn't they? They were really focused on mobile gaming, then they were looking at game streaming and now they've gone. Actually, no, we'll just go back to TV and do it. [01:05:46] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:05:47] Speaker C: Because I think the major studios off the top of my head that they bought, I think were Spry Fox, Us two who made the Monument Valley games and Night School who did Oxenfree. They bought those three. Spry Fox are now independent again. I don't know what's happening with the other two, but. [01:06:03] Speaker A: Yeah, but yeah. So if we look at. Well, the problem is again, we need to look for this US lens because we're second hand content for them. Even though we're a massive market, it's all secondhand for the UK. So if you look at the US streams split, Disney plus and Hulu own 23% of the market. Amazon prime have got the 22% of the market. So you've got over 40% tied up between those two. Then it's Netflix with 21% who used to dominate the whole thing before Disney plus and Amazon prime even were a thing. Then you've got HBO Max at 13%, then Paramount plus at 9%, then Apple TV at 7, then Peacock at 1% and then you've got all the others like Tubi and Movie and Pluto. [01:06:46] Speaker D: See, one of the problems with all of this is that's more traditional TV watching because what figures are showing at the moment is that most people are watching content through YouTube and that traditional broadcast media, whether it's streaming or whether it's TV, has become secondary. [01:07:03] Speaker A: Fallout in America over YouTube, which is a streaming service. A lot of people use YouTube as a streaming service. They've just had a massive fallout with Disney about streaming live sports and things over that. So I think that's also going on in the background because Google are trying to get themselves a foothold in the streaming market via YouTube. So a, it's a good way for Netflix to bolster its content library with some actual proper long service, long named. [01:07:31] Speaker C: Titles, such people, such fancy IP like including Casablanca. Yeah, that was in their announcement. [01:07:36] Speaker D: See, we didn't get in the uk, I don't think we ever got it. We didn't get the new Animaniacs show. I've never seen that appear in the uk. I don't see. I do some never been on now TV or whatever it is. [01:07:52] Speaker A: It's mainly they're trading for that HBO Max slice, aren't they? That's what it is. So if Netflix, Sorry, it's Max. [01:07:58] Speaker C: Oh, wait, no, sorry, it's HBO Max. [01:08:00] Speaker D: Wasn't it just HBO and then it. [01:08:02] Speaker A: Was just HBO Max, Then it went to Max, then it went just to HBO and now it's back to HBO Max. Yeah, but yeah, so HBO Max, 13% market share. That's what the debate is over more than anything else. So if Netflix win it, it becomes the biggest streamer again. If Paramount wins it, it then becomes big enough to compete with Netflix and Amazon Prime. [01:08:21] Speaker D: But if you're an audience viewer and you go, okay, Netflix owns hbo and then Netflix goes, well, we've got to pay you £18.99 or whatever it is for Netflix. And then you've got to pay another fee for the stuff that we own that's on hbo. Aren't people just going to go, well, I don't want any of it now. Why am I paying double for all the content that you own? It's like, you know, Disney could just go, well, we're gonna separate out Disney plus, so we're gonna have Disney plus. We're gonna have. Isn't there some National Geographic and stuff? So we're gonna splinter everything we own into every separate little thing. So you want to watch something on everything, but you don't get it all. Like you were saying, we used to get it all on one and it's like splintering it down to like just exploit the audience. So it's like we'll put such and such a thing on one channel and we'll put such and such a thing on another channel. [01:09:13] Speaker A: The problem is the capitalism has got addicted to the subscription service 10 years ago, it was easy to go and buy a Blu Ray or go and buy DVD of what you want, and then you owned that physical media. Same for video games. You'd walk into a shop, you'd buy a physical video game and that would be yours to own in perpetuity. You could resell it, you could do whatever you like with it. You've even seen Nintendo recently having the worst combination of both, where you now have a game card, but you still have to download the game. So it's basically just a physical license key that you have to put in the switch too. So it's this whole thing of you don't own the content, you just own a license to the content, which is not even perpetual. It's something we've discussed on the show many, many times. It's not going to change anytime soon. Unfortunately. The only way you'd go back to where it was in previously is go and buy the TV series that you like to watch and go and buy your comfort show. [01:10:03] Speaker C: There is a bit of a shift going on, though. Like, it's a small one at the moment, but it is like we're even seeing, like, younger people just being like, you know what? Screw stuff. All these subscriptions are just gonna go through my nan's DVDs. [01:10:13] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:10:14] Speaker A: And the thing is, a lot of those titles which you can get on physical media aren't on streaming services because of license issues, because of rights issues. [01:10:23] Speaker B: Or they are, but they're there to rent or buy and you've got to pay for them again on top of your subscription. [01:10:28] Speaker A: Perfect example, I bought Viv, the 90210 box set. I imported the German box set because that had the license rights to the original music versus buying the UK one, which has had all the music replaced because the license rights have expired on that, on the US UK version of the DVDs. So you can listen to the show that you used to watch, that you knew had music queued up because it was specific, licensed music for a specific scene without the licensed music. [01:10:54] Speaker D: Yeah, it happened with Northern Exposure. When that got released on DVD the first time, they had to take out the licensed music. But if you're spending all this money on acquisition, what are you going to be investing in actual new content? So you're going to have to wait to recuperate some of that cash. [01:11:11] Speaker C: Well, we've seen this with Microsoft buying up two major publishers and then deciding, oh, we're going to have to close a bunch of studios. Yeah, that's what happens. [01:11:21] Speaker A: The one Thing over here as well is there's this big issue of if Netflix does buy Warner Bros. Discovery, that is another movie studio which is unlikely to release titles to the cinema going forward. [01:11:34] Speaker D: We're saying that Warner Brothers aren't exactly doing that with a lot of the content they've got. [01:11:39] Speaker A: They have released some films recently with DC studios, to be fair. But what, what does that mean? Is that gonna be just Netflix dc? So we're gonna get the same Marvel Netflix version, but it'll just be, we won't even get it at the cinema. It'll just be. DC films will be streamed on Netflix first. [01:11:57] Speaker D: I don't think they're even thinking about all of this. They're just thinking about we want it and we're gonna buy it. [01:12:02] Speaker C: Yeah, we want ip. [01:12:03] Speaker D: Yeah, we just want it. We don't really care what we're gonna do with it afterwards. We just want to own it to stop somebody else from owning it. [01:12:10] Speaker B: Yeah, I'd imagine the big DC blockbuster type things will still get a cinema release. Anything that. [01:12:15] Speaker A: But it's all about mid tier of movies, which cinemas used to survive on. [01:12:19] Speaker D: Well, it just, it just seems like all of these kind of people with loads of money are just so infantile that it's just a case of like, I want to own that because I want to put good content out. It's just like I want to own it so somebody else does and I want it. It's all real flipping Violet Beauregard type stuff. Daddy, I want Netflix, I want Paramount, I want whatever. [01:12:39] Speaker A: It's all based on future forecasts of revenue. That's the thing. It's, we'll spend this money now because it'll give us twice the money in 10 years time. It's exactly the same with what's going on as AI. You see this card game of money moving around in a circle and it's, well, I'll give you 10 billion if you go and buy 10 billion worth of my processors or 10 billion worth of my GPUs. [01:12:59] Speaker C: Ignore what's going on over here where it looks like there's a massive PIN heading right towards your bubble. [01:13:03] Speaker D: Yes. [01:13:04] Speaker A: And the thing is with AI, it's all future forecast because you got to think all of this investment in technology has to be replaced pretty much on a five year cycle. So all of this thing, especially in most modern PCs, ram prices have tripled, even quadrupled over the last few months because next year stock has been bought by AI companies. There's no consumer chips out there anymore. [01:13:28] Speaker D: I Just think audiences are losing out. You know, the only people that are gaining anything here are the people with the money at the top. Audiences aren't gaining anything, really. You know, if anything, you're going to pay more for less. [01:13:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:13:43] Speaker A: And you get less quality services, you're getting less investment, you're going to get. Well, I think. So what's going to happen if either of them buy it? Exactly. What's going to happen? The board gets go. They've had their cash out. They've had their payout. The management team is going to be completely reduced. They'll have all these double roles that they'll want to get rid of straight away. So all that will happen is you get mass redundancies, Creatives will get kicked out. There'll be even more infighting for the same resources. You got to pay back that loan somehow. So that means price is going to increase for consumers, which means less investment in the actual shows that are going to go out. All it's going to be is rinse and repeat quality of content as well. It's like, as we've seen, every franchise has been ran into the ground over the last few years. It's a case of you can't just have a unique original series about something. If it's successful, we've got to run it into the ground. We've got to make 15 different versions. Stranger Things is case in point. That was supposed to be an anthology series. They did season one. It was so successful, they went, no, we want four more seasons of the same. Thank you very much. So throw all your ideas out and now go and write four more series of stuff that you haven't even got plotted out. [01:14:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:14:59] Speaker D: I think some of the winners in this, particularly theatrically, are going to be smaller studios like the A24s, who are going to start mopping up with, like, really interesting new content that audiences are going to see. [01:15:11] Speaker A: While. [01:15:11] Speaker D: So studios keep releasing massively, hugely expensive blockbuster movies that just don't recoup their content. You know, people. People have complained this year that the big kind of superhero films like Superman and Fantastic Four didn't clear the $1 billion box office, which seemed to be the thing of, like, if you release a superhero movie, it's like you've got to make a billion dollars. So I think while they're. While they're all kind of fighting over this kind of stuff. Stuff, I think it's going to mean that smaller studios are going to go, yeah, we can release stuff. And it's like it's going to get an audience and we're going to make enough money to sustain ourselves and reinvest, which these studios just don't seem like they're the interested in it. [01:15:54] Speaker A: The other thing that we failed to look at as well at the moment is the Orange Gibbon is in charge over there and his son in law's. [01:16:01] Speaker D: Don't say that we want to go. [01:16:02] Speaker A: To America, but his son in law is directly involved in one of the deals and knowing him, he will use all of his political might and influence to make sure that he's going to win out on top regardless of who wins the. [01:16:15] Speaker B: We've already seen how the FCC in America is very in favor of Donald Trump in itself. [01:16:21] Speaker A: Well, we've seen things like his interference in what you call it brains going out of my head. Late show. [01:16:28] Speaker D: Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Kimmel. [01:16:30] Speaker A: So he's interfered with Jimmy Kimmel and his interview feared with Stephen Colbert, I think. And all those kind of shows where he's just trying to control broadcast media over there. [01:16:39] Speaker D: Yeah. Don't show any kind of left wing socialist themed TV shows. [01:16:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:16:45] Speaker D: Don't criticise things. [01:16:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:16:47] Speaker A: And when you're suddenly Law's directly involved in one of the bids. Yeah. So. [01:16:53] Speaker D: I'm all for something happening if it meant that I could go to a streaming service and watch every single Looney Tunes cartoon ever made, plus all the episodes of Freakazoid, Pinky and the Brain, Animaniacs. [01:17:03] Speaker A: But they won't. They'll just vault it and then they'll drip drab it out on occasional release. It'll be exactly the same as Disney is. You'll have access to what we want you to have access. And the rest of the stuff will be vaulted forever. [01:17:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:17:15] Speaker A: So again, whoever wins, we lose. So it's a terrible situation. So as we said, go out, find this one of the studios, go and find the independent stuff. Go and check out Patreon and stuff like that. There's some really good stuff being made on there. YouTube is probably not a great place to go and find stuff, but there's some original content creators out there who are making fantastic TV quality, if not better stuff on there. Go and find some of those. [01:17:41] Speaker C: In conclusion, killer teens. [01:17:48] Speaker B: Right. [01:17:48] Speaker A: It is a festive time of the year, so I'm gonna pull out my sack. [01:17:56] Speaker C: This is spammy show. [01:17:58] Speaker A: And the first thing that everybody needs to have at Christmas is a selection box. [01:18:04] Speaker D: Awesome. [01:18:04] Speaker A: Awesome. So everybody gets the selection box. [01:18:07] Speaker D: I shall play Santa's elf and I shall deliver these I shall disappear from. Although my Voice will still be heard. If you hear any crashes, that's not me. [01:18:17] Speaker B: Through the magic of cinema, he disappears and he appears. Thank you. [01:18:23] Speaker A: You know, you could have just walked around that way, which would have been much easier than Cameron's first thing. And then I've got everybody a little present. [01:18:31] Speaker D: Oh, I've got to do it again. [01:18:32] Speaker A: If I can, but it's a mystery present this time. So they're all on a similar theme. But feel free to delve into the bag. [01:18:41] Speaker D: Is it going to be selector select? Oh, well, okay. What else you'll do is I shall go over to the other side. [01:18:46] Speaker A: You want to go over to the other side? [01:18:48] Speaker B: I'll go. [01:18:49] Speaker D: I'll go the long way. [01:18:50] Speaker B: You can hear my voice. [01:18:52] Speaker D: It's like proper tv, this is kids. Should we go for Lee? You're going to close your eyes and put your hand in. [01:18:59] Speaker C: Okay. [01:19:00] Speaker D: Not that. [01:19:04] Speaker C: We'll grab this one. [01:19:05] Speaker D: Okay, Sam, stop touching that, whatever this is. [01:19:12] Speaker B: Thank you. [01:19:13] Speaker A: Don't forget producer Viv manning the death behind. [01:19:16] Speaker B: And thank you, Viv. [01:19:17] Speaker D: There's a bit of rustling noise. I'll put my microphone closer. Oh, that's a large parcel. [01:19:25] Speaker A: I'm back. You go. No, no, you go first. [01:19:29] Speaker D: Oh, you hold that. You hold my sack. [01:19:30] Speaker A: I mean. [01:19:33] Speaker D: She would have that one. [01:19:35] Speaker A: You're gonna have that one. [01:19:35] Speaker D: I have one. [01:19:37] Speaker A: Okay, I'll go for that one. Feel free to reveal your presence. [01:19:43] Speaker D: It's. [01:19:44] Speaker A: It's a Darth Vader would say. Well, I felt the presence. [01:19:51] Speaker D: It's an asmr. [01:19:54] Speaker A: I've got the most annoying one. I don't think this will be glad of mine. Comes through there. Oh, my God. [01:20:07] Speaker D: Okay, so I have, I have. [01:20:10] Speaker C: This is being extremely resilient. [01:20:14] Speaker A: I have. [01:20:15] Speaker D: Don't be a dick, dick. [01:20:18] Speaker A: You want to read the instructions on. [01:20:19] Speaker D: The back, which says a hilarious. Well, nature's naughty side. A hilarious card game for grown ups who love nature and little naughtiness. Well, that's me all over. Says there are lots of nature naughty names in nature. And we've brought them together in this hilarious card game. Titter at a tuft, Titmouse chuckle at the large cock. Shafer snigger at the sticky willy. But whatever you do, don't get left holding the dick dick. The player ends up the game with their dik dick in their hands loses. It's as simple as that. Well, nice family game. I'll have to get the pampas grass out as well from when we play that upside down pineapple 1970s reference there for you kids out there. [01:21:02] Speaker A: It's an upside down pineapple nowadays. Is it an upside down pile? [01:21:06] Speaker D: Well, you know. Obviously gave up in the 80s. [01:21:11] Speaker A: Champs. Do you want to say what you got? [01:21:13] Speaker C: What's the best thing? Get ready to rank random stuff. Choose a category, draw a secret number and then what sea creature gets 2 out of 10. You say a blobfish. Your friends have their own random category and secret number to beat the game. Work together to line up everything from best to worst without revealing your secret numbers or running out of lives. And there is a picture on the back ranking bananas as the best and volcanoes as the worst. I don't know what the category is. [01:21:46] Speaker B: Whatever it is, I'm not sure I agree. [01:21:50] Speaker A: Sam, how about yourself? [01:21:51] Speaker B: I've been trying to get out so I can do a dramatic reveal over the top of this but I don't think that's going to work quickly enough. But I've got the world's smallest sandbag toss. So yes, it's a. Well, it doesn't have any instructions on the box but I assume it is what it says it is. [01:22:13] Speaker C: Yep. [01:22:14] Speaker A: Awesome. [01:22:15] Speaker B: Makes life fun. [01:22:16] Speaker A: And I have pants on fire. The outrageous game of deceit. So tell a true story about the worst present you ever received. Lie about auditioning to appear on a TV talent show. Pick a card and decide whether to create a whopping lie or reveal a compelling truth. You have 30 seconds to tell your story. If your players especially being fast and loose with the truth, they will bing you out. Who will manage to mislead everyone and become the crown, the most ultimate deceiver there is. It contains cards, Bell Pounce crown. Pounce crown. 50 point tokens and instructions just like it. [01:22:51] Speaker B: Because it's. [01:22:52] Speaker A: That's a good bell. [01:22:53] Speaker D: Yeah, it's a real dinger. [01:22:57] Speaker B: So it's. Would I lie to you the board game. Basically. [01:22:59] Speaker A: Basically, yes. Would I lie to you the board game. [01:23:01] Speaker C: I'm assuming the bell is like you ring it if you believe someone's lying to you or something. [01:23:05] Speaker D: I've already found my favorite card. [01:23:09] Speaker A: What do they say? [01:23:09] Speaker D: It says knob weed and giant beaver. So yeah. So those are. Those are good. I like those. [01:23:16] Speaker A: So anyway it was just a little thought and bring some jollity to the team and then we'd all have a just a little board game or similar to play with over the Christmas feedback. [01:23:25] Speaker D: With that where filthy language. [01:23:32] Speaker A: Slightly different from our usual. We usually have a regular roundup of the one geek thing that we've been up to since we've been anyway but I thought we'd have a one geek year. So what has been our standout franchise? TV show, book, comic, film, video game. That's the thing we've most loved in 2025. So to kick us off, Sam, I. [01:23:56] Speaker B: Think the film I've enjoyed the most has probably been Sinners, which we've mentioned quite a bit already in the Golden Globes chat. But I just thought visually and in terms of the music and just the overall kind of style of it, I absolutely loved everything about it. It just completely blew me away. Since we've already talked a fair bit about that today, though, I'm also going to give a quick mention to Stranger Things, which I've really, really enjoyed. The what what's come out of the final season so far? There's still about half the season left to go, but it's like such a huge tentpole franchise for Netflix and a lot of these, like really big shows have trouble sticking the landing a little bit and it's built this big mythology up, but so far it feels like they're doing a good job with it. All the characters have really kind of leveled up. They're sort of keeping it exciting to watch. [01:25:09] Speaker A: Do they all look 45 now? [01:25:11] Speaker D: Yes. [01:25:12] Speaker B: They don't look 12. They don't look 45. And they have introduced some new younger characters this season as well. So the little sister of Mike is a bit older, but is now about the same age that the other characters were when the series first started. And my favourite new character, who's this little fat kid who is just the most gloriously unpleasant child I've really gone to town in just making them really obnoxious, horrible little piece of work. But the writers and the actor have clearly had a lot of fun creating that character, I think. And yeah, he just makes every scene twice as entertaining. So, yeah, I will go with Sinners and Stranger Things. Cool. [01:26:12] Speaker A: Awesome. Lee, how about yourself? [01:26:15] Speaker C: So I've already talked quite a bit about my Game of the Year earlier in this very show because it is Claire obscure Expedition 33. So rather than go over all that again, I'm instead going to highlight a game that I've played recently, but is going to make it on my list of games of the year, which, by the way, will be up on my YouTube channel on new Year's Eve. All will be revealed, my top six, but one of those is Unbeatable, which just came out and it is a rhythm game where music is illegal and you do crimes. Basically you are sort of a slacker is the best term I can come up with called beat. And you're basically living in this world where music has been outlawed and you have to. But you're going to create music anyway with a band of people who are also just defiant of everything going on. And it is basically just, let's form a raucous garage band and play music while beating up cops. And you beat up cops to the tune of the music because it's all rhythm game gameplay. So it's all just. You have two tracks and you have to press buttons in time with the music. And it is a lot of fun. And I've been having a lot. I've been enjoying that recently. It's just such a really good experience because it's got that sort of punk rock attitude. It's a very scrappy little game. It doesn't. It's got some technical issues, but in a weird way that kind of works in its favor because it adds that feeling of, you know, it's not. It's that sort of rough and ready garageband kind of feel to it. You've got this sort of very interesting art style, which is anime character designs and sort of almost like a zine aesthetic, I think is the best way to describe it. And then the soundtrack's just really, really good as well. So. And the ending went into places where like, it was like. It just has this really surprisingly emotional ending as well, which just, you know, brings the whole experience together. Plus, it's got like just a big arcade mode. So if you finish the story and just want to keep playing the songs, just jump into that and just have fun with it. And yeah, it has quickly become one of my games of the year and I highly recommend it if you want to see. If you want to know more about it. Got a Rock Paper Shotgun where I wrote the review and I'm very proud of that too. So, yeah, that's my choice. [01:28:58] Speaker B: Awesome. [01:28:58] Speaker A: Thank you very much. Keith, how about yourself? What's your 1 geek thing of the year? 1. [01:29:06] Speaker D: It's 1 ish. It's 1 ish. Because I thought about this when you said about it and I found it really hard. Kind of hone it down to anything specific. So I am going to do like Lee, I'm going to do a rundown of some of the comics that I've really enjoyed this year so nebulously. I'm going to be picking dc, but I will get to one specific thing. But I think DC Comics and DC film and TV content has had a really good year. The comics have kind of come out of Their kind of grim, dark, everything has to to be kind of like really grim and match the kind of feel of the filmic universe. And have been doing some really interesting things. A lot of the absolute titles this year have been really great. [01:29:50] Speaker A: Sorry, I've got to stop you there because the Superman film, my best review of the year I've ever seen was somebody wrote this film is far too comic booky. [01:30:02] Speaker D: Well, in my opinion it's brilliant purely because of that. [01:30:05] Speaker A: Yes. [01:30:06] Speaker D: So stuff like the absolute universe books have been really good. They've had the Batman, the Superman, Wonder Woman's which have been more kind of traditional stuff. But they did the absolute Martian Manhunter, which was phenomenal. It was a very limited run. I think was only eight issues. Go and read that. It's absolutely brilliant. They've brought back the kind of 70s blue uniform costume, Batman recently in an ongoing title with that they've been just lots of stuff. They've gone with the whole DC all in theme for a lot of their books over the past couple of years, which have been really good. Some really interesting books going on at dc. Lots of interesting things going on. A little bit of controversy here and there for other characters looking at you, Red Hood. But the films have been and TV shows. So James Gunn has been brought in with Peter Staffan as well to kind of take charge of that wrestling off some other guy, don't know what is name is, some director or whatever it is. And so we had creature commandos, which I've already talked about on this show in the past, which I really enjoyed. And then we had the Superman movie, which is also for me just possibly may now be edging into my favorite Superman movie. I know Christopher Reeve's film is still there and it's got the Superman thing, but when every time I rewatch this new one, it's like it's so gloriously bright and like just joyful. And I really love it for it. But my pick of the year about all of these things DC related is going to be Peacemaker Season 2, which I've only just recently finished watching because I kind of wanted to keep it because I know there's not going to be another one in the near future. Potentially not at all. But there was something about the gloriousness of this character who originated way, way back. I think he's one of the Carlton characters that DC brought in a while back, which was all part of the thing where Alan Moore did Watchmen, because originally Watchmen was going to be all these Charlton characters. So the comedian would have Been Peacemaker and Rorschach would have been the question. There's a whole thing. Just look at all the line kids. It's fine. So now he's had his own TV show. He started off in the Suicide Squad, which was James Gunn's first DC movie, which he did when he was in that kind of bit of a period where Marvel was like. But then he went back and then he was back here again at dc. Peacemaker was in that. He did some stuff with Rick Flagg Jr. Which kind of has had repercussions in the series. Rick Flagg Sr. Appeared in Creature Commandos, now in the live action. But the whole thing. Daniel books as Adeola and then Adrian Chase, who's the vigilante. But it's just such a joyfully, brilliantly obscure, obscenely violent, funny, heartfelt. I care for every single character in there. They did things with the Peacemaker's family and they had alternate universes, which was like, when they get to where they reveal what the crux of this alternate universe is, you just go, they went there in 21st century. 2025America. Bravo. Stand up. Standing ovation for that, guys. But it was just fantastic. And I cared deeply about all the characters. And it ends in a way that you just go, you sons. [01:33:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:33:25] Speaker D: Apparently stuff will be resolved in future films and TV shows. I have a lot of trust in James Gunn that you will do that. But I've just loved it. And it reminds me of why I loved the DC universe originally. It was the first kind of non British comics that I got into that were readily available on street corners in the uk. Marvel came a little bit later for me. But there's something about the DC stuff, and I love the fact that James Gunn really understands these characters. He's embraced the ridiculousness of comics characters and not tried to make it real. And he's just gone. Yeah, it's weird, it's freaky, it's insane. The final episode of the Peacemaker series where they start going through these dimensional portals. There's some stuff that happens in that that you just go, this is deliriously brilliant. And I just loved it. I thought it was fantastic. It improved on the previous season, the Foxy Shazam Song that they used at the beginning with the choreography, which someone close to me has suggested. Geeky Brummy to their own version of the Peacemaker choreography interest opening. That might happen at some point, but that song, if you're making me do. [01:34:34] Speaker C: That, I'm making you do the Alan Wake 2 dance. [01:34:37] Speaker D: That's a deal. But the thing that when as you go through the series, you realize that whole intro sequence tells you everything you know about what's going to happen in the show. And the song kind of relates to all of that. And it's just beautifully packaged, perfectly formed eight episodes, episodes of phenomenal TV that I've absolutely loved and I've loved it. It's fantastic. And I've really, really enjoyed every single minute of that show. But yeah, so DC entirely has had a great year. Peacemaker 2 Season 2 has been my absolute pick. [01:35:10] Speaker A: Awesome. [01:35:10] Speaker C: Thank you. [01:35:11] Speaker D: Sorry, went a bit long there. [01:35:14] Speaker A: So for mine, I had a bit of a coin toss earlier. Outer Worlds 2 was pretty high up. Just off with it's fun. It's got the quirky kind of humor that I love. It's Obsidian all Over and nights at All Republic 2. One of my favorite games all time. Obsidian. I appreciate it's not the same Obsidian then, but it's still got that Fallout New veg. This has got that kind of slightly off beat. [01:35:37] Speaker C: I think it is still Josh Sawyer. [01:35:39] Speaker A: Yeah, it's still got that slightly offbeat kind of Obsidian fun, which I like in a video game. I think they kind of nailed the word weird quirky, right? Everything's terrible. It's corporatocracy. But we'll have some fun alongside it with gross out humour and those kind of things. So if you've not played the Outworlds 2, I would suggest having a go. It's different to the first game. It's a very kind of different setup, different RPG style. It's akin to Mass Effect 2 versus Mass Effect 1. So it's kind of completely different way of doing an rpg, but it's still fun at the same time. And the floor system is a genius thing of so for like me, who has to go and check every single corner and be a pack rat and like pick up everything, it'll give you a floor and say like, oh, we've noticed that you just like don't actually do the mission that you're supposed to be on. You're too busy looking at the corner. So we're going to give you a floor now, which will give you some advantages and some disadvantages. So the way you play your game gives you these kind of flaws which are some useful, some not useful. So it's a different way of playing. Rather than just having standard, I'll just be a stealth archer, which is every single stealth sniper, which is most RPGs, so really recommend that. But my series and you Picked up on this earlier, which nobody's given it any love, which it really should have. And it is Andal, because that second series is one of the finest series of TV that's ever been made. Even though it's Star wars, it's not too. It's not in your face. Star Wars. Star wars is a setting for this tale. It is not the be all and end all. It is how the universe works and you understand the rules and it uses Star wars as that setting. But I think Andor is one of the greatest pieces of modern television. The cast is perfect. Diego Luna, Carl Soler, Stellan Skarsgrd, Genevieve O'Reilly is amazing. Denise Gough, Faye Marseille, Elizabeth Dulau as kind of. This is her first major role outside of university. Looks like competing with Stellan Skarsgrd on an acting platform and coming off as an equal is amazing. Ben Mendelsohn for his cameo is one of the greatest cameos of ever. And we finished that series and I instantly went, I need to watch Road 1 now. And that's. That was that thing for that series. That series is so perfectly paced and it's just the biggest run up to a movie that it ever could be considered. It's in Star Wars. It's a prequel to a film that was a spin off film which didn't really need to exist and was slotted into canon just as a. Here's an extra story. Such an amazing piece of work. And I can't really say, Tony Gilroy, how did you come up with this and how did you make this in Star wars and get away with it? I suppose. [01:38:31] Speaker D: Yeah, it was, it was a definite mood and they, at least they tied it up. Because I was very concerned at some point when a certain droid was like just sent off and I was like, you've got. You can't just leave that to be a kind of like, you know, dangling plot thread. But they, they wrap that up and I was very pleased with that. But again, the ending of the show, emotional, like, wow. You just kind of go, that's a reveal. [01:38:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:38:57] Speaker D: Which I won't mention for spoiler reasons. [01:38:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:39:00] Speaker D: But it just heightens what you. Because you know what's going to happen to these characters. [01:39:05] Speaker A: And I think the way they paste it of three blocks of three. So you had three years and you had three episodes per year. So the original series of Andor was kind of over extended period of time. So you get from the original founding of. I don't even like, I'm just a thief. I just Want to get away and do my job to right. I'm now part of this rebellion thing, whatever that is. And then you see the founding of the Rebellion over these three years from these weird kind of little fractious groups. You get the whole Saw Gerard sideline, which if you want to Clone wars, if you're a bit of a Star wars nerd, you've got that integration into the deeper stuff if you want to go deeper into it. But I think the story and the plotting was just so well done of these. Let's take a year. Let's spend a year on Gorman now. Let's spend a year building up the Rebellion and the whole thing with the Senate and getting Mon Motha's character more involved. Just so well structured. [01:39:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:39:58] Speaker D: You hear the term mature used a lot when they go, oh, we're going to make a mature version of this kids thing. Star wars is in a sense a kids show. [01:40:07] Speaker A: It's a fairy tale that started off. [01:40:09] Speaker D: But they made this mature in a way that was like. It was mature in the. In the emotions, in the storytelling, in the content. You know, it was very relevant to a lot of the political sentiments happening across the world at the moment. [01:40:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:40:26] Speaker D: And it didn't shy away from stuff that was pretty hard hitting. [01:40:29] Speaker A: And I think it also perfectly encaptured the beginning of the empire crumbling when it becomes this whole monolithic thing of. It forgets what damage it's causing. It forgets the small people who actually support the empire, the people who go to work that do the thing, they get the thing and everybody just gets involved in their own little personal political sphere and ignores the whole. And you can see the downfall of empires. [01:40:54] Speaker D: You. [01:40:54] Speaker A: You can see the downfall of thing of when you ignore the people who actually make this thing in the first place. And you start to crush spirit, you start to crush freedoms just to get your job done. Because that's the quickest way of doing it. It's such a great encapsulation of that. [01:41:12] Speaker D: It was also good the way it showed that certain characters that were involved in that was like, even you're not safe from this regime. It's like when your time and usefulness has come to an end, when your. [01:41:24] Speaker A: Number comes up, you'll be the first one along the wall. Yeah. So if you've not watched it, I do kind of urge you to watch. Andor even if you hate Star Wars, I think it is still worth watching. And if you love Star wars, you should love this as well. Thank you for joining us for the geeky Rummy show this year, we'll be back again next year and we'll be back again for year 10. [01:41:53] Speaker D: Years, man. [01:41:55] Speaker A: No grey hairs at that point. I don't know what's happened since then. Thank you for joining us for this episode. Lee where can we find you online? [01:42:03] Speaker C: You can find me on YouTube at Bob the Pet Ferret and on Bluesky under Bob the Pet Ferret. And also as a freelance games writer you can find me across the Internet writing about games mostly at Silicon Era, but as I stated earlier in the show, I did manage to land a review at Rock Paper Shotgun, so hopefully you'll start seeing me in more places. And yeah, you can also find me on geekybrummy.com every Friday doing the game's release roundup, which will resume in the new year because we're done. [01:42:38] Speaker A: Sam, how about yourself? [01:42:39] Speaker B: You can find me on Bluesky and Instagram D. Edwards89 and also on the Geeky Brummy website every Thursday with the film roundup. [01:42:50] Speaker D: Keith, you will find me under the moniker of Hardlock Hotel on the good social medias. I'll leave that up to you to decide which those are, but otherwise it's Wednesday on the Geeky Brummy socials and website with comic There'll be a bit of a break over the holiday season, but look out for a random selection of comics I've liked. It's not a top 10 or a top 25. It's just a bunch of books that I think you should be reading that should appear at some point over the holiday season. I won't commit to when it'll be a Wednesday. [01:43:21] Speaker C: While we're on the subject, I will be doing a top 50 most notable games as decided by maths, as I do every year. [01:43:28] Speaker D: I can't do math, so that's why mine's just a random selection. [01:43:31] Speaker C: It's Metacritic, it's got Google Trends, it's award shows just all crammed together and then whatever comes at the end, I have to write about them. [01:43:39] Speaker A: Thank you very much. If you've been enjoying our Advent Calendar series whilst this has been on, and we are in the festive season, as you can probably tell. Really? Yeah. But if you missed any of those, they'll be pinned at the top of our Instagram channel so you can go onto Instagram and watch back Advent calendar of 2025. Some really great recommendations of places to go, video games to play, films to watch which aren't your traditional films. Comics that feature Birmingham in some kind of content. [01:44:04] Speaker D: Well, some of them did. [01:44:07] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:44:07] Speaker A: Events that are going on. So really do go have a check. [01:44:10] Speaker C: I couldn't find games in and around Birmingham so it was just British games and the first two games I picked aren't even in the uk. [01:44:18] Speaker A: But yeah, there's some really good board game cafes with which I'm looking at. Went to the lovely people at Sliced and Dice recently. They've got a crowdfunder which I'll probably pop in the link as well. If you want to go and invest in that. It's great to keep some independent gaming places here in Birmingham and beyond, but we'd really do appreciate you and thank you for the usual like subscribe. You know the buttons. Everybody talks about the buttons down the bottom. If you're watching this on YouTube. Thank you. And you can see us. If not, if you're listening via podcast. Oh, sorry. You can watch us on Spotify as well now. So that was the other thing I was going to say. So if you want to see us in glorious Spotify vision. [01:44:56] Speaker C: Spotify vision. [01:44:57] Speaker D: You can watch us on Spotify, which. [01:44:59] Speaker C: Is like yeah, randomly we're just going to drop the quality out of nowhere. [01:45:05] Speaker A: But if you're listening to. [01:45:06] Speaker C: You can tell I've been. I've been binging lateral all year and just the amount of times it's just like, no, I'm going to be. I'm going to be running at 240 for no reason. You can't change it. So enjoy. [01:45:18] Speaker A: Yeah. If you're listening to us, thank you for listening. And yes, I know we do a lot of camera stuff so we try and balance out and explain what the hell is going on. [01:45:26] Speaker D: That sounds so dodgy. We do some camera stuff. Special viewers. [01:45:31] Speaker A: If you want to see us in glorious definition, we are on YouTube and. [01:45:34] Speaker C: Spotify, but we don't have that account. [01:45:38] Speaker B: If you want to see our camera stuff in glorious definition, well, you want. [01:45:43] Speaker A: Us to get relocate those Peacemaker opening scenes. [01:45:48] Speaker D: That's just a dance, just none of. [01:45:49] Speaker A: The rest of Peacemaker. Thank you very. [01:45:51] Speaker D: It's not offering something else. [01:45:55] Speaker A: Thank you for joining us this year. Really Hope you enjoyed 2025 listening and watching or seeing us at the geeky Broadway or at Birmingham Anime Film Festival which will be back in 2026 maybe. So keep your eye peeled for that one. But yes, thank you for watching, listening, viewing. However you've consumed our geeky Ruby content, whether it'[email protected] with the games, comics or films roundups, really do appreciate it and we will see you in 2026. But for now, goodbye, everybody. [01:46:25] Speaker B: Merry Christmas, children. And a happy New Year. [01:46:43] Speaker D: I was a bit disappointed that I. [01:46:45] Speaker A: Didn'T find actual proper animals. [01:46:46] Speaker D: Yeah, they're proper animals, but surely you could get some better one, you know, there must be some really, like, filthy ones. [01:46:51] Speaker A: I think my favorite one is something like the titmouse. [01:46:54] Speaker D: There's Bearded Tit, Colon, Rectum, Large Cockpit, Shaffer, Sticky Willy, Tufted Titmouse, Family Jewels, Milkweed, Blue Footed Booby, Sparkle Muffin of the Rock, Rough Faced Shag, Slippery Dick, Stiff. That's a good one. Woodcock Nipple War. There's a lot of Horny Toad, Screaming Hairy Armadillo, Cockatoo, Wonderpus, Knob Weed, obviously Sausage Tree, Shaggy Soldier, Soldier, Cockeyed Squid, Giant Beaver, of which there's not a lot. And a dick chisel. [01:47:30] Speaker A: You know, when we talk about superheroes, this is what Lee is. Yeah.